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Old 08-03-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Interesting tidbit from the Defense's opening statement yesterday. They claim Manafort was working undercover FOR the FBI.

"Here is what you'll hear. FBI Agent Staci Sullivan interviewed Paul Manafort almost four years ago to the day, 2014. At the time, the FBI was looking at the potential misuse of Ukrainian government funds and working with the government of Ukraine. What you're going to learn is that Paul Manafort voluntarily agreed to go talk to these FBI agents and to Department of Justice attorneys. Not only to discuss his consulting work over in Ukraine, but to provide information about individuals that they were interested in."
This doesn’t imply that he was an “undercover informant” for the fbi......
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: AZ
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We know Rod Rosenstein of the FBI investigated Manafort back in 2014 & cleared him of any wrongdoing on these same charges.

Manafort intends to call RR as his first witness. How will RR explain diving into his finances, banking, lobbying, ties to Ukraine & finding nothing to prosecute him on?

The Defense, also alleges that Manafort told the FBI & DOJ attorneys all about his Cyprus bank accounts, his finances, etc.

IF, and it's just an assertion at this point, but IF it's proven, then the FBI didn't charge him with tax evasion, bank fraud or FARA violations. They didn't even tell him to file with FARA and they trusted him enough to use him as an undercover informant.


They did not clear him on the same charges; that’s one hell of a bald-faced lie.

Where’s you proof he was an “undercover informant”?
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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The trial is being held in Alexandria, VA, a heavily blue city. IMO just the fact that Manafort was Trump's campaign manager will be enough to convict him of something...who cares what. I suspect there are jurors who would love to send Trump a "message", the law be damned.

The judge is just making it easier for Trump to pardon Manafort. Libs will yell, but at this point who cares.
His house, the one the feds raided, IS IN ALEXANDRIA, VA. HE. LIVED. IN. ALEXANDRIA.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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His house, the one the feds raided, IS IN ALEXANDRIA, VA. HE. LIVED. IN. ALEXANDRIA.
Yeah, we have a few undesirables that live here. But we're a tolerant and friendly little city so we leave them alone.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Yeah, we have a few undesirables that live here. But we're a tolerant and friendly little city so we leave them alone.
I'm glad when they give Richard Spencer a hard time. Not too much action over on Princess Street though.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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The trial is being held in Alexandria, VA, a heavily blue city. IMO just the fact that Manafort was Trump's campaign manager will be enough to convict him of something...who cares what. I suspect there are jurors who would love to send Trump a "message", the law be damned.

The judge is just making it easier for Trump to pardon Manafort. Libs will yell, but at this point who cares.
Trump can pardon Mueller targets, but that won't prevent their prosecution in state court
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ion-ncna882006
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Russian Money. Manafort was lobbying AGAINST a free Ukraine and for it to be a Russian Controlled state...that what was he was paid for.

"made more than $60 million consulting for a Russia-backed political party"

You are correct - this trial is for bank fraud only and I think the next one for money laundering. Serious charges. But there is a missing link here somewhere - or a bunch of them.

Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows "what are the odds?" of so much Russian money and Russia-tied insiders being closely involved in a campaign AND in an administration. One of them...OK. Maybe two of them...possible...but, dang, everything is Russia, Russia Russia.

Manafort had to have been promised returns FAR above the 60 million he took from the Russians...to work for FREE to get Trump elected. This is not a charitable individual....and being in debt for his crazy lifestyle, the last thing he would do is work for free.

Then you have Gates, a senior white house advisor. Then you have Flynn. Then you have the chick with the NRA funds. LOTS more of them....the Trump Tower meeting, etc.

Then you have Trump, admittedly, saying that the Russians are the biggest investors in their Empire. Then you have Trump getting "great deals" on flipping some real estate to a Russian (not a valid transaction) and making tens of millions instantly. On top of this you have the "legal" vast Trump connections to the thousands of Russians buying his condos in Sunny Isles Beach...the town is pretty much built with Russian money and populated by thousands of Russians and even used as "Russian Anchor Baby Incubator" - with Trump properties offering such.

https://therealdeal.com/miami/2018/0...sles-new-york/

Something smells in River City.....and it ain't fish!

We may never know the extent of all of this...or we may know it well after the fact, but this is not "Q" or "Pizzagate", but real world stuff happening in front of our eyes.
According to his bookkeeper's testimony Manafort was completely broke back in 2016 and lied to the banks about his assets. He was desperate when he joined the Trump campaign but right after he left the banks started fronting him money.


I don't know this will go any further than bank fraud and failure to report foreign accounts but I would like to know what he was doing that was so important to the Russian Party in Ukraine.


Several million dollars for exactly what.




https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/02/polit...ree/index.html
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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His house, the one the feds raided, IS IN ALEXANDRIA, VA. HE. LIVED. IN. ALEXANDRIA.
Trump supporters always need a reason for a loss, usually its the judge but now its his hometown city that is a problem. If it wasn't that it would be the weather, there has to be a reason if Manafort is found guilty.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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According to his bookkeeper's testimony Manafort was completely broke back in 2016 and lied to the banks about his assets. He was desperate when he joined the Trump campaign but right after he left the banks started fronting him money.

I don't know this will go any further than bank fraud and failure to report foreign accounts but I would like to know what he was doing that was so important to the Russian Party in Ukraine.

Several million dollars for exactly what.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/02/polit...ree/index.html
This begs the q: Why did he refuse a salary with trump? Maybe because that was the marker called in by his Russian Oligarchs to whom he owed money? Sent Manafort to the trump campaign as the conduit for communications between them and Russia.

"Paulski, go make nice with Comrade trumpski, tell him Putin wants to help him."
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