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Old 08-04-2018, 09:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
It came from the time he was working at the IMF.

"International organizations such as the IMF are exempted from Social Security taxes, so U.S. citizens who work there are supposed to pay them as if they are self-employed. Geithner did not."

When it was uncovered in an audit, he took full responsibility and paid $34,023 in back taxes and $8,679 in interest.

"A number of senators, including both Republicans and Democrats, appeared to accept his assertion that he made an innocent error."

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6704526&page=1
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From what I read, it appears the income ta on the IMF salary was paid but Social Security tax on the IMF salary was not paid.

When this was discovered, Geithner did not lawyer up and lie, but paid the $34K in back Social Security taxes and the $9K in interest.

No tax preparers testified that they were lied to.

No allegations of bank fraud involved.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Ah, so he was working for an international government agency...of which our country is a founder and long term member...for a relatively small amount of money...and owed some taxes on it???

This is akin to the 10's of millions of Americans who buy stuff online and then don't declare it on their state sales tax! A joke.....

Many people seem to have not watched Sesame Street which often taught (and sung) "Which of these things is NOT like the other, see if you can guess which one"....if we are taught that before age 5, one must assume an adult conversation would not contain such.

Let's reason this out:

1. Tens of Millions of Americans WOULD owe some taxes if their returns were audited....

compared with:

2. Working against the interests of our ally (Ukraine) and taking tens of millions in Russian money and hiding it in foreign banks. Then, many times, purposely avoiding taxation by international wire. Then, falsifying and doctoring bank loan applications and telling accountants and bookkeepers to inflate figures and make them up out of thin air.

I ask the entire audience here. Is one of these things NOT like the other? See if you can guess which one....
I think you have bought into some seriously wobbly thinking.
Tax evasion is a crime. Geithner committed that crime on purpose. Manafort committed that crime on purpose. Charlie Rangle, who was chairman of the committee that writes tax law, also committed that crime on purpose. They should all be punished.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:34 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Ask Tax Cheat Timmy Geithner. He's the one who cheated on his taxes. Big scandal at the time. Look it up. Plus, I posted a photo of the civil disobedience protest: the red TAX CHEAT! stamp over Tax Cheat Timmy's signature on paper currency.



Apparently, Dems are A-OK with cheating on one's taxes unless it's not a Dem who does so.

Oh, and Geithner also employed an "unauthorized immigrant" housekeeper.
We should bring up Marc Rich, who was indicted for tax evasion but refused to return to the US - not even for his daughter's wedding. Clinton pardoned him.
All those tax cheats should go to jail. Manafort, too.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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Manafort is toast. His accountant and bookkeeper delivered very damaging testimony against him, proving that he's guilty of bank and tax fraud.

Will Trump pardon him? I don't think he will. Trump and his team will fear that if he is pardoned it will cause a political backlash among both the public and politicians in Congress. Impeachment is a political process and giving Manafort a pardon only adds to the general perception that Trump is corrupt and is out to protect his mafia pals. Not pardoning Manafort lets Trump say, "Sorry Manafort was convicted but that's got nothing to do with me."
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Trump and Manafort have been close since at least 1980. That's longer than a month. Nearly 40 years, as a matter of fact. Paul came back from Ukraine to run Trump's campaign, and took the job at no salary even though he was broke and in debt. He was in that position for 144 days, but since he lived in Trump Tower only a couple of floors away from Donnie, they still kept regular company, before and after the fact.

Read his daughter's texts and see what she had to say about him. Paul is not a nice boy.
The crimes that Manafort is on the hook for did not occur during the Trump Campaign and have nothing to do with the Trump Campaign. Therein lies the problem. The witch hunters found a witch, but it wasn't who they were looking for. Since the money laundering ring also equally implicates Tony and John Podesta, the money laundering ring taints both Trump and Clinton campaigns fairly equally. Both campaigns were run by the same cabal of crooks.

The core issue is that associating with a criminal does not make you a criminal. I can go visit a dear friend in prison but it doesn't make me guilty of the crime that he is in there for. Visiting them doesn't even make me a bad person. So I don't understand the Dems jumping up and down for joy over catching Manafort.

Trump did what he said he would do. He brought a lot of experienced politicians onboard as an answer to critics that he didn't know how to do the job of President. Unfortunately, politicians are very corrupt people and Trump will always have a very corrupt talent pool to draw from.

It would probably be a lot of fun to do a deep investigation of everyone in our federal government, but I suspect we'd be left with 1/10th of the members of the Senate and House and we'd absolutely gut every federal bureau, all while creating a prison overpopulation crisis in DC. Might be fun to keep score and see which party had more former Senators and Congressmen thrown in prison. That's likely to be a pretty equal race.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnwCsSs535w
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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Manaf***ed.
Haha! Brilliant.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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Anyone know why the trial isn't starting back until Monday afternoon?
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Manafort is toast. His accountant and bookkeeper delivered very damaging testimony against him, proving that he's guilty of bank and tax fraud.

Will Trump pardon him? I don't think he will. Trump and his team will fear that if he is pardoned it will cause a political backlash among both the public and politicians in Congress. Impeachment is a political process and giving Manafort a pardon only adds to the general perception that Trump is corrupt and is out to protect his mafia pals. Not pardoning Manafort lets Trump say, "Sorry Manafort was convicted but that's got nothing to do with me."
Got to wonder what Manafort's defense will be.

As to the pardon, who knows? Trump is long past realizing that his actions make him look guilty as sin.

Manafort likely knows the details about the conspiracy with the Russians to steal the election, who all was involved, and what efforts were coordinated.

If the price of his silence is a pardon, hard to bet on Trump refusing.
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Old 08-04-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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Manafort likely knows the details about the conspiracy with the Russians to steal the election, who all was involved, and what efforts were coordinated.
The next person who produces even the most microscopically small piece of legitimate evidence to support that apparent lie will be the first one to do so.

But you knew that and posted what you knew to be untrue anyway.
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Old 08-04-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Capone killed people, the only reason Manafort is in trouble with the law is that he supported Trump for a month. For sure Trump will pardon him if this isn't thrown out and they get a conviction....for now though, the Demonic Rats have their political prisoner and don't want to give him up.

That is totally false. He was under investigation before Trump even announced his run for POTUS. But if you want to ignore the facts go right ahead.
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