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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-06-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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They can but the GOP is scared of Trump and do not want to act like an equal branch of government


The old tortoise said he won't even consider voting on a bill in the senate unless Trump agrees to it first.
In that case, we don't need McConnell or the senate at all. They may as well go home, without pay, for the next two years.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Not sure why everyone seems to forget that Congressional Dems have the power to end the shutdown as much as the president does......

Trump said he was proud to take ownership of the shutdown.

You own it, you fix it.

He claims to have widespread support and that America wants the wall yet supplies nothing factual supporting his claim. IF he's so serious about the wall, let's see something factual supporting his claim!

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Old 01-06-2019, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Not sure why everyone seems to forget that Congressional Dems have the power to end the shutdown as much as the president does......

trump wants 5 billion for a "wall" without having:

-a feasibility study

- cost analysis,

- a geotechnical engineer report,

-a civil engineer report regarding grading and drainage,

- an analysis of design requirements based on the above.

-bids from contractors!


Don't you think that giving 5 billion for a half-baked idea without a plan, is a bit irresponsible?
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:43 PM
 
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trump wants 5 billion for a "wall" without having:

-a feasibility study

- cost analysis,

- a geotechnical engineer report,

-a civil engineer report regarding grading and drainage,

- an analysis of design requirements based on the above.

-bids from contractors!


Don't you think that giving 5 billion for a half-baked idea without a plan, is a bit irresponsible?
Also every prototype has failed.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Pelosi and Schumer never said "Mexico would pay for the Wall."
Irrelevant.

lots of politicians have made campaign promises that they were unable to keep once they were elected... Trump is no different.

Congressional Dems hold as much power to reopen the government as Trump does.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Irrelevant.

Congressional Dems hold as much power to reopen the government as Trump does.
Trump wants 5 billion for something he has no logistical plans for or else he keeps government closed and causes financial harm to 800,000! That is extortion!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:49 PM
 
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Like if he insists on wall money, but enough of the elephants defy him, that a override is more likely?
Ummmmmmmmmmm............ no


You see, we have three branches of government. Legislative, Executive and Judicial (unless you are a new congresswoman from New York, then one is unsure of the branches of government). If Congress (half of Legislative) decided to now be "the government", that is what we call a coup de tat.




Why is it that libs, in many instances, dream and pine for overthrow of the government? Perhaps they do not believe in a representative government at all and are more intrigued by authoritarian rule. After all, many libs admire Castro, Lenin, Mao, and Che- some of the biggest mass murderers of the 20th century.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Trump said he was proud to take ownership of the shutdown.

You own it, you fix it.

He claims to have widespread support and that America wants the wall yet supplies nothing factual supporting his claim. IF he's so serious about the wall, let's see something factual supporting his claim!



He's asking for the moon to get a little bit of cheese .....if you haven't figured that out by now then you're probably not much smarter than Congressional Dems are.....
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't worry about E-Verify enforcement that would make too much sense, instead claim that the solution to the problem is a steel wall across the border.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Trump wants 5 billion for something he has no logistical plans for or else he keeps government closed and causes financial harm to 800,000! That is extortion!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion

No.... That's politics.

again ad nauseam.. not really sure how many times I have to say this:

Congressional Dems hold as much power to reopen the government as Trump does
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