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Old 10-27-2019, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Again, which Arab country had received more than Israel over the years?

There isn’t any. Claiming that during certain years an Arab country received more does not change the fact that Israel overall receives the most aid.

Who said anything about Jews being disloyal? You’re failing miserably here.

You’re showing your hypocrisy. Don’t think I don’t see you playing oppression Olympics with the African-Americans on here.

It’s amusing.
That's a foolish baseline, but one that I find people who are intent on singling out Israel for questionable attacks often resort to.

Indeed, while Israel may have received the most (and may have . . . I am not sure if this is even true) aid of any country over the years (let's assume its true for the sake of argument, although Iraq and Afghanistan have each received more in US aid than Israel for many years now and through today: https://howmuch.net/articles/usa-foreign-aid-by-country), the aid to Israel represents a tiny fraction of the total foreign aid provided by the US taxpayer. Thus, others and I are bewildered and right to question the true motivations of people who spend time picking on Israel for this issue. If you're truly concerned about aid being given to Israel and not to American citizens, it really shouldn't matter what country the aid is going to. This is especially true given that eliminating annual $3 billion in aid given to Israel would still leave well over $25 billion in foreign aid flowing to other countries. But you don't seem to care about that because Israel has received the most "over the years?" How in the world does that calculus change the reality on the ground for Americans?

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Old 10-27-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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1. Beauty standards are a thing of great importance. Mainstream beauty standards have always determined what is physically attractive and what is not. Just recently, natural-textured (black African type "4A-B-C") hair became acceptable in the workplace. Hair is still the main issue that separates black people - especially black women - from everyone else.

2. Poor health is much more prevalent among blacks in the U.S. as well as in Africa and it has just a little to do with poverty. It has more to do with behavior and the day to day choices in lifestyles as well as internal beliefs.

3. Jay-Z is not scientist nor an architect. We live in a world where technological/intellectual know-how rules the day. Having smarts just isn't as well-rewarded in this world as intellectual strength. Not many like him are interested in becoming more like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Satya Nadella, or anyone with a STEM background. Those are the people every other race strives to be. How many like him take interest and strive to become qualified in those fields?
Actually poor health in Africa is MOSTLY related to poverty. Malaria is still a big killer in Africa and not getting the medication in time or at all is the cause of many deaths out in the bush.

If you want people to strive towards something or to be successful at something, you let them see images of people like them doing that. You don't see as many images of black people doing such things because for the last 300 years, around the globe, blacks have been prevented from achieving such things. Blacks gravitate towards things that they see black people being successful at....which is sports and entertainment. Doors opened up for blacks in sports and entertainment, sooner and wider than in other areas of interest. Also, sports and entertainment has a higher profile in that its televised. Thus, sports and entertainment on TV creates a strong pull to emulate for your black males especially.

In time, just like with distance runners, you will see blacks start taking interest and reaching the pinnacle of such areas as well. Just like with distance runners, it will probably be Africans.....Nigerians is my bet.

I will agree with Katy on this one....you definitely come across sounding like a racist.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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You do know that translates to racist Republicans....don’t you?
No it's not, that's just something you made up and have no proof.

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You are just saying that they are not as racist as when most whites in the south were democrats. in other words, the current racist are Republican...just “racism light” though.....lol.
No I'm not that's just something you made up and have no proof. You think people will actually believe this?....lol

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I agree with that. Racism is not as bad as it used to be, but the party of current racism is the Republican Party.
That's just something you made up and have no proof. Go ahead and name a racist republican policy. You won't you'll just ignore that question and make something else up like you did in the absurd post I'm quoting.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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That's a foolish baseline, but one that I find people who are intent on singling out Israel for questionable attacks often resort to.

Indeed, while Israel may have received the most (and may have . . . I am not sure if this is even true) aid of any country over the years (let's assume its true for the sake of argument, although Iraq and Afghanistan have each received more in US aid than Israel for many years now and through today: https://howmuch.net/articles/usa-foreign-aid-by-country), the aid to Israel represents a tiny fraction of the total foreign aid provided by the US taxpayer. Thus, others and I are bewildered and right to question the true motivations of people who spend time picking on Israel for this issue. If you're truly concerned about aid being given to Israel and not to American citizens, it really shouldn't matter what country the aid is going to. This is especially true given that eliminating annual $3 billion in aid given to Israel would still leave well over $25 billion in foreign aid flowing to other countries. But you don't seem to care about that because Israel has received the most "over the years?" How in the world does that calculus change the reality on the ground for Americans?
So I’m still waiting for answer to the question.

Also interesting that this is one question is so problematic to you (not sure why) but the blatant insults to African nations in this thread were just fine.

Spare me the false outrage.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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Actually poor health in Africa is MOSTLY related to poverty. Malaria is still a big killer in Africa and not getting the medication in time or at all is the cause of many deaths out in the bush.

If you want people to strive towards something or to be successful at something, you let them see images of people like them doing that. You don't see as many images of black people doing such things because for the last 300 years, around the globe, blacks have been prevented from achieving such things. Blacks gravitate towards things that they see black people being successful at....which is sports and entertainment. Doors opened up for blacks in sports and entertainment, sooner and wider than in other areas of interest. Also, sports and entertainment has a higher profile in that its televised. Thus, sports and entertainment on TV creates a strong pull to emulate for your black males especially.

In time, just like with distance runners, you will see blacks start taking interest and reaching the pinnacle of such areas as well. Just like with distance runners, it will probably be Africans.....Nigerians is my bet.

I will agree with Katy on this one....you definitely come across sounding like a racist.
No. Images do not make a difference if one is not internally motivated. You cannot force people to be interested in things they just are not interested in. And still can't deny that being the right fit in any career means more than just being qualified. It takes a whole long list of positives, such the right social aptitude, the right temperament, the right look as well.

I still have to disagree with poor health being related to poverty. There are many other illnesses running rampant in Africa and U.S. inner cities as well because of behavior and lifestyle choice.

Blacks are not prevented from achieving in other areas, many are just not genuinely motivated in STEM fields. Sports and entertainment are the main fields of interest. Why? Indeed, much of this has to do with the need to see blacks (and for them to see each other) as showpieces to be conveniently put away when no longer needed. But then there aren't all that many black people capable of achieving success in sports or entertainment either. If that were true, wouldn't be so many living in poverty.

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Old 10-27-2019, 02:21 PM
 
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So I’m still waiting for answer to the question.
So I'm still waiting for you to stop attacking the only Jewish state while hypocritically and self servinngly ignoring the many other countries receiving more than than Israel, both in total and the two Muslim countries that have been receiving more money than Israel each for a number if years now.

Of course, the onus is on you. You have claimed that Israel received more money over the years than any Arab country, which is why you single them out. Where is YOUR proof of that?
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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So I’m still waiting for answer to the question.

Also interesting that this is one question is so problematic to you (not sure why) but the blatant insults to African nations in this thread were just fine.

Spare me the false outrage.
The insults to African nations are condemned by me (see, that's not so hard). Are you willing to condemn and criticize the many billions of aid that go to countries other than Israel each year? Or will you continue to single out the Jewish state?
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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So I'm still waiting for you to stop attacking the only Jewish state while hypocritically and self servinngly ignoring the many other countries receiving more than than Israel, both in total and the two Muslim countries that have been receiving more money than Israel each for a number if years now.

Of course, the onus is on you. You have claimed that Israel received more money over the years than any Arab country, which is why you single them out. Where is YOUR proof of that?
Point out where I attacked Israel. You’re the one who has a problem with the truth. Since you’re going to act ignorant, which in fact you are, I will provide the information.

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Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $142.3 billion (current, or noninflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although from 1971 to 2007 Israel also received significant economic assistance.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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The insults to African nations are condemned by me (see, that's not so hard). Are you willing to condemn and criticize the many billions of aid that go to countries other than Israel each year? Or will you continue to single out the Jewish state?
Go back and read my statements about foreign aid and stop your nonsense.
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Old 10-27-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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That’s racist in my opinion. There are beautiful black people, and ugly black people, just as there are beautiful white people and ugly white people. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder.

The health issues are from poverty and not eating healthy foods, and that affects people of all races. And intellect is affected by outside forces like poverty. I know black people that are plenty smart even if they aren’t intellectuals. Look at people like Jay-Z who went from drug dealer to rapper to billionaire businessman because he’s got good business instincts.
And his lyrics are so beautiful and inspiring! Won't quote them here, but you can check out the sheer poetry as he waxes lyrical on "b*tches and hoes!"
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