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Old 10-28-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Remember, Rep. Ilhan Omar has taken it upon herself to be a leader in the anti-Semitic movement. We had a conference here in the Seattle area called "Intersectional community dialogue on weaponizing charges of anti-Semitism." It was basically how to be an anti-Semite and fly under the radar.

A local NAACP official attended, and was asked in an interview how she found out about it. She said that Ilhan Omar had 'reached out.' Rep. Omar's district in MN is about 1800 miles away from Seattle.
Absolutely terrible. And any Jew who complains about Omar's antisemitism - and her interest in weaponizing antisemitism as revealed through her outreach to that conference - will be told to stop seeing antisemitism everywhere. It's the liberals' way of delegitimizing anyone who speaks out against anti-Semitism, and it enables the anti-Semites.

In the meantime, the left is calling math, white sneakers, and just about everything else "racist." You don't like rap music? You're a racist. You think college admissions standards should be applied regardless of race? You're a racist. You think we should take a harder stand against illegal immigration? You're a racist. In fact, the Democrats are running their entire campaign on exaggerating racism (in an effort to secure votes from the gullible) and making ridiculous claims about "brown people" and whatnot.


There are so many instances of double standards applied to both Israel and Jews. Even this thread itself is an example: the topic was how Israel is singled out for special condemnation, while other countries are given a pass - and liberals just keep piling on Israel, thus demonstrating the very premise of the thread, and making excuses or overlooking what other countries are doing.
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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https://www.thenation.com/article/il...r-minneapolis/

There's a piece on Rep. Omar in the Oct-Nov issue of The Nation. It's very fawning, as might be expected, but still worth reading to get a different perspective on Omar. She is a hard one to figure out.

The article writes off her 'unforced errors' such as repeating anti-Semitic tropes, or tweeting holocaust-denier cartoons as just missteps due to inexperience/naivete.
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I'm about done with this thread, because the critics of Omar will never be swayed. The only 3 things I've gotten out of them are:

-Everything is anti-semitic
-Israel is infallible and should be able to do anything it wants
-the Palestinians should just shut up and realize they're a conquered people
-no one should criticize Israel ever

That about sums it up
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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https://www.thenation.com/article/il...r-minneapolis/

There's a piece on Rep. Omar in the Oct-Nov issue of The Nation. It's very fawning, as might be expected, but still worth reading to get a different perspective on Omar. She is a hard one to figure out.

The article writes off her 'unforced errors' such as repeating anti-Semitic tropes, or tweeting holocaust-denier cartoons as just missteps due to inexperience/naivete.
Writing off Omar's anti-Semitic tropes and tweet Holocaust-denier cartoons as mere "misteps" is again the way the left delegitimizes concerns about anti-Semitism. All you have to do is look through the comments from liberals who continue to "pooh-pooh" obvious instances of antisemitism.

As a Jew, I am disgusted by how liberals keep saying "oh....you see anti-Semitism everywhere" (like in the BDS movement or Omar's comments). It is very dangerous, and a wink-and-a-nod to anti-Semites everywhere. It's a way of saying, "we will jump down your throat if you dare say anything that could be twisted around as racist, but if you say anti-Semitic things about Jews, we will defend YOU and condemn any Jew who objects." Just look at the post above from Firebird, as one example. He doesn't fashion himself an anti-Semite, but he sure takes a different approach to a Jew who objects to antisemitism than he does to a black who objects to racism. Double standards. Double standards. Double stands.
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:46 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Writing off Omar's anti-Semitic tropes and tweet Holocaust-denier cartoons as mere "misteps" is again the way the left delegitimizes concerns about anti-Semitism. All you have to do is look through the comments from liberals who continue to "pooh-pooh" obvious instances of antisemitism.

As a Jew, I am disgusted by how liberals keep saying "oh....you see anti-Semitism everywhere" (like in the BDS movement or Omar's comments). It is very dangerous, and a wink-and-a-nod to anti-Semites everywhere. It's a way of saying, "we will jump down your throat if you dare say anything that could be twisted around as racist, but if you say anti-Semitic things about Jews, we will defend YOU and condemn any Jew who objects." Just look at the post above from Firebird, as one example. He doesn't fashion himself an anti-Semite, but he sure takes a different approach to a Jew who objects to antisemitism than he does to a black who objects to racism. Double standards. Double standards. Double stands.
With Trump, everything is a dog whistle.

With Omar, everything is a misstep.

Makes sense.

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Old 10-28-2019, 09:01 PM
 
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She's not just any somalian muslim woman - she is an elected member of Congress who is influencing legislators against Israel and American Jews.
You must be kidding. Google AIPAC and last year Mcconell, Pelosi, Schumer , Cruz were all in attendance as speakers. You think she has greater power than them?? At best she could get votes in Minnesota or Detroit and stay in power again.

Either you are worrying too much about an one off case or want to make sure no one talks anything bad about Israel at all.
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Old 10-28-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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You must be kidding. Google AIPAC and last year Mcconell, Pelosi, Schumer , Cruz were all in attendance as speakers. You think she has greater power than them?? At best she could get votes in Minnesota or Detroit and stay in power again.

Either you are worrying too much about an one off case or want to make sure no one talks anything bad about Israel at all.
Hardly. I criticized an aspect of Israeli policy with which I disagree. On the other hand, have you ever criticized any aspect of the Hamas-led Palestinians (they did elect terrorists, after all) or the Arab countries who talk about wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the map? No, your condemnation is one-sided, and focused solely on Israel. And then you, like all good liberals, criticize people who refuse to go along with that one-sided condemnation.

And shrugging off a Muslim Democrat's antisemitism is the problem. I doubt that liberals would shrug off a Christian Republican's racist remarks. The media would be leading off with it for a full week.

And don't think I don't remember you. You are the one who has made remarks about "Jewish power" and "Jews owning the media" and all sorts of comments that reveal both ignorant and prejudicial things against Jews.

So many of these posters are proving the point of this thread, and that is that singling out Israel for condemnation, while making excuses for others, is driven by anti-Jew sentiment, just as it is with Omar.
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Old 10-28-2019, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I’m wondering if any poster here actually read Rep. Omar’s Op-Ed? Israel was not mentioned once in the article, nor were any statements made that appeared to be the least bit anti-semitic.
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Old 10-28-2019, 10:14 PM
 
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https://www.thenation.com/article/il...r-minneapolis/

There's a piece on Rep. Omar in the Oct-Nov issue of The Nation. It's very fawning, as might be expected, but still worth reading to get a different perspective on Omar. She is a hard one to figure out.

The article writes off her 'unforced errors' such as repeating anti-Semitic tropes, or tweeting holocaust-denier cartoons as just missteps due to inexperience/naivete.
And I have an article to recommend to you. In it, the author writes of his fear that the Democratic Party has not only descended into blindness to anti-Semitism, "but has become an engine to it." He lays out an excellent case as to how this has happened, including the Democrats' reaction to the anti-Semitic Omar, and takes the reader through it step-by-step.

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...-unsalvageable

P.S. Tablet is a well-respected Jewish publication, with a long history.
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Old 10-28-2019, 10:22 PM
 
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I’m wondering if any poster here actually read Rep. Omar’s Op-Ed? Israel was not mentioned once in the article, nor were any statements made that appeared to be the least bit anti-semitic.
The point is that in that op-ed she was arguing AGAINST sanctions, saying that are ineffective (and can in fact, according to Omar, embolden the country being placed under sanctions). At the same, she whole-heartedly supports sanctions against Israel via her support of the BDS (the stands for SANCTIONS) movement. The OP explained that. So she's opposed to sanctions against every country, except Israel.

Double standards.
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