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Old 11-16-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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But the left demands that public schools should allow muslim students to pray and read religious material during school hours.
Funny thing is, not that long ago, leftist shut down a Christian meeting group for students at the public school I attended. And virtually everyone at the school was Christian if they had a religion. One Muslim immigrant shows up and suddenly leftist want prayer back in school lol.

 
Old 11-16-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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What observations? A bird's beak? That doesn't prove that a species "evolved" into another species. The birds weren't cats before, they've always been birds.

Please point out where we have seen one species turn into another species?

Birds and cats would have common ancestors. If you examine the bone structure of most species they are quite similar. Bat wings, the forelegs on a cat, human arms and the pectoral fins on whales are practically identical other than the proportion/sizes and how they are used.
 
Old 11-16-2019, 07:54 PM
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But the left demands that public schools should allow muslim students to pray and read religious material during school hours.
And how is that different from the current standard of "a moment of silence" every morning at schools or Christian Athlete Associations that meet and pray on school ground?

Your rather basic in your example students of any faith are free to pray on their time is their a specific example where a district is making allowances for what you stated?
 
Old 11-17-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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What observations? A bird's beak? That doesn't prove that a species "evolved" into another species.
Actually, it does.

Part of the problem is the widely held erroneous belief that species cannot interbreed.

There was also a widely held erroneous belief that if species interbreed, the off-spring are sterile.

We now have an avalanche of evidence that disproves both. Species can and do interbreed, and while it is true that sometimes the off-spring cannot reproduce, more often than not they can reproduce.

And bird beaks are proof of evolution.

The gene that governs formation of beak mutates. Why? Doesn't matter. Could be a natural mutation, which are very infrequent. It's just garbled DNA. It could be an internal coerced mutation. A glacier erodes rock high up in a mountain exposing Uranium, Chromium or Mercury or something else. The metals erode out into a stream and end up in the birds food or water supply and cause a mutation. Tar pools. Tar pools were everywhere in California, south central US, all of the Middle East. Tars, bitumen, oils all seep to the surface. They're carcinogenic. They cause mutations. Or it could have been natural background radiation. A gamma ray, x-ray, neutron or proton. Maybe from an X-Class Solar Flare.

So, this mutant bird with its mutant beak, which may be shorter, longer, wider, narrower, thicker, thinner and combination of those or even duck-billed or spoon-billed is running around squawking and flapping its wings.

Now the process of Natural Selection begins.

Maybe the mutation caused the beak to be longer and narrower. Because it is, the mutant bird can dig deeper in the ground to worms and insects other birds can't get, so it survives good times and bad times and reproduces.

Now its off-spring has that mutant gene and next thing you know there's a whole flock of mutant birds flying around.

That's Evolution.

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The birds weren't cats before, they've always been birds.
That would be silly. Birds evolved from dinosaurs.

Ever seen people with extra webbing between their fingers? It looks weird. They look like ducks.

Well, it's like that.

One of those small reptiles running up and down trees eating insects mutated to have webbing between its forelimbs. It reproduces, the mutant gene is passed to the off-spring and the next thing you know there are hundreds of them running around. They start gliding tree-to-tree like flying squirrels and additional mutations over time result in the evolution of wings.

We now know that many early reptiles had hair, and that hair evolved into feathers.

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Please point out where we have seen one species turn into another species?
We just witnessed the evolution of a reptile, actually, a lizard I think it was.

And contrary to what you believe, Evolution is happening right now before your very eyes.

There's a family group in South America, I don't know the specific country, but they all have six fingers.

No, I didn't stutter: six fingers.

There are 7 Billion people on Earth now. Just eye-balling it, it would take a few 100 Billion years before that mutation spread through the entire human population and every human had six fingers.

But, had that mutation occurred a Million years ago when there were maybe 40 humans on Earth, that mutation would have spread in just a few generations and we would all have six fingers.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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For those who keep blabbering on about how science works, they should understand the simple fact that it must be observable AND repeatable.
I wouldn't disagree, but you're ignoring a glaring reality.

That reality is we haven't identified every gene.

We have not yet identified every gene in humans. We have identified the genome for a handful of lower life-forms, a few bacteria and couple of annelids.

The human genome is a priority, because of the medical potential to both cure and prevent disease or illness.

Understanding the human genome will greatly accelerate the study of genomes for other organisms.

Once we have the genome for other organisms, guess what? Your claim fails massively.

Of course, that assumes there is a change in bio-medical ethics.

Current bio-medical ethics bars the creation of new organisms or the revival of extinct organisms.

However, I believe that in a few decades, with AI and ML, once the genome of other organisms are fully known 100%, then it will be possible to take the genome for a cat and find out what it was before, and assuming DNA can be extracted from extinct organisms, what came after, using computer modeling.

If you look at the embryo for a horseshoe crab, it looks just like a trilobite in every way, shape and form. That's because horseshoe crabs evolved from trilobites and the DNA for trilobites is inside every horseshoe crab.

Once we have the genome for the horseshoe crab, we can work backwards to trilobites and then backwards from trilobites to other organisms.

It's hard to repeat something when you don't have what you need.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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Funny thing is, not that long ago, leftist shut down a Christian meeting group for students at the public school I attended. And virtually everyone at the school was Christian if they had a religion. One Muslim immigrant shows up and suddenly leftist want prayer back in school lol.
And if there is a Jehovah's Witness in the class there are no celebrations all year. And yes, it happened. Only class not allowed to celebrate bdays .. because bdays were not inclusive of JW religion. So no bdays for ANY CHILD.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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And if there is a Jehovah's Witness in the class there are no celebrations all year. And yes, it happened. Only class not allowed to celebrate bdays .. because bdays were not inclusive of JW religion. So no bdays for ANY CHILD.
I know, it's ridiculous. The left wants to eliminate America's heritage and culture and that's just an example of how they go about doing that.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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Maybe you should check out a course on gender identity and what science actually has to say about it.
Science and religion are mutually exclusive. The people who scream the loudest about their religious freedoms being taken away are the people who need to take these gender identity courses.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Science and religion are mutually exclusive. The people who scream the loudest about their religious freedoms being taken away are the people who need to take these gender identity courses.

wrong, science and religion can and do coexist nicely. it is the closed minded people that think they cannot coexist peacefully.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 09:03 PM
 
Location: 89434
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If we're going to have public schools, they should teach modern science.
The left wants schools to teach that men can be women and men can have periods.
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