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Old 11-15-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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Evolution is a theory. It has not been proven. It can not be the “correct” answer.


Evolution has been proven. There are exceptions of course but to see it you have to look at the whole - both liberals and conservatives. Republicans cannot point to themselves and say, 'See. We are proof that evolution didn't happen!"

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Old 11-15-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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thing is, one side sees creation as absolute, the other side sees evolution as absolute, that one must exist over the other. but my opinion is that both can exist side by side. for instance, in the early years of this planet, life really didnt exist. it was just a bunch of proteins in a primordial soup. something brought these proteins together in the right combination to start life, and life evolved from there. and science can do that today, aka create simple life from a primordial soup. if we can do that then what prevents god from doing that?


and if we look back into the past, we will find that all species have evolved from what they started as. and that happens naturally from DNA changes over time. some evolutions happen when the DNA is corrupted. nature is always doing strange things.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Student: I have a penis so I'm a girl. I can also get pregnant and need tampons.

Biology teacher: you pass.
Student: I am Elizabeth Warren. I am a human so I'm an Indian. I can also get affirmative action and preference.

Teacher: you pass A++ !
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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thing is, one side sees creation as absolute, the other side sees evolution as absolute, that one must exist over the other. but my opinion is that both can exist side by side.
Right, I don't necessarily see evolution and creation, or at least God, as mutually exclusive.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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Evolution is a theory. It has not been proven. It can not be the “correct” answer.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

But that isn't the issue.

The issue is that when you take a class, you are expected to master the material presented. You cannot make up your own version of, say, English, refuse to learn about Shakespeare, and then contend that you've passed that class.

And conservatives excoriate liberals for being responsible for grade inflation...
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

But that isn't the issue.

The issue is that when you take a class, you are expected to master the material presented
. You cannot make up your own version of, say, English, refuse to learn about Shakespeare, and then contend that you've passed that class.

And conservatives excoriate liberals for being responsible for grade inflation...
No, the issue here was you can't discriminate against or mark down a student on the basis alone of their religious beliefs.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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I agree with your opinion, but I read through that Ohio document and did not see where it explicitly states that a student can give wrong answers based on religion. "..shall not punish or reward a student based on the religious content of the student's work." I take this to mean, for example, if a student draws an angel in art class he should not be penalized because of the religious nature of the work. But if asked in science class how the various species came to be, and the student replies with an answer from Genesis, the student should fail, but NOT because of the religious nature of his answer but because it is wrong from a scientific perspective and this is a science class.
Come on, don’t ruin the OPs rant with logic.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Biologically that is called a hermaphrodite, and it does happen. Usually though the person is infertile.

https://www.nature.com/articles/3880645
If someone says that people have 10 fingers do you say that's wrong because once in a blue moon someone is born with 11 fingers? So we all need to pretend 11 fingers is normal?
 
Old 11-15-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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No, the issue here was you can't discriminate against or mark down a student on the basis alone of their religious beliefs.
As a person who has done a little grading myself, I never gave a rat's ass what religion a student professed, whether the student agreed with anything/everything in the syllabus, or whether they even liked the class. All I cared about what was how well they learned the material.

If all this law does is codify my attitude, I'm good with it.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 02:15 PM
 
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If someone says that people have 10 fingers do you say that's wrong because once in a blue moon someone is born with 11 fingers? So we all need to pretend 11 fingers is normal?
Who said anything about normal?

How about we just not discriminate/bully/etc 11 fingered people who had no control over being 11 fingered. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

Although, he murdered my father and must prepare to die.
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