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Old 11-15-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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OP: ready to call for the immediate and complete abolishment of compulsory education laws and public schools?

Because if not...sit there and take it. It's what you want.
How did you possibly come to that conclusion (or should I say delusion)?

 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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Seems quite vague....
The law seems to be intending to protect people from bias against religious and being graded down on that basis. Religion is a protected class and a first amendment right as is speech. So if we're going to have protected classes and a 1st amendment then that's the laws you can get.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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with evangelicals and fundamentalist running our future theocracy we can have another war with their counterpart Islamic fundys..set in the fifteenth century on horseback...the return of jousting!
 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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The OP created a strawman argument. The law didn't suggest what he claimed. The law is saying schools can't discriminate on the basis of religion.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Evolution is a theory. It has not been proven. It can not be the “correct” answer.
Evolution is the most widely accepted mechanism that explains the biological development of all life on earth. You can quibble about the semantics of what is a "theory" and what constitutes "proof" but the world has largely moved on from those distractions and is going with evolution. Welcome to the 21st century.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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with evangelicals and fundamentalist running our future theocracy we can have another war with their counterpart Islamic fundys..set in the fifteenth century on horseback...the return of jousting!
These days it really feels like that is where we are headed.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-...ue-to-religion

It's hard to believe that we once put a man on the moon and today we have become such an anti-science culture. If we're going to insist as a society that the Bible is a science textbook, that the earth is 6000 years old, that Noah's Ark really happened, and that the Book of Revelation is the explanation for climate change, then I believe this country's best days really are behind it.
Well, schools are also teaching children that girls are boys and boys are girls, completely ignoring biology.

How is THIS any different? It's the same thing, different crowd.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 10:53 AM
 
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Well, schools are also teaching children that girls are boys and boys are girls, completely ignoring biology.

How is THIS any different? It's the same thing, different crowd.
The former is worse. This law doesn't say teach religion or make religion the right answer, just to not grade down on that basis alone.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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What observations?
Morphology, as supported by the fossil record, for starters. Then, wehn we leanred of DNA, we could trace all sorts of interesting branch-offs. Endogenous retroviruses provide some handy markers, or - for a more basic example - the way we and other great apes have lost the ability to synthesize ascorbic acid. The gene is there, it's broken, and it's broken in the same way. As is to be expected if we share a common ancestor.

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Please point out where we have seen one species turn into another species?
All species are evolving just fine right now. There's not going to be a one-generation change.

For an analogy, think of language.

Alfred the Great spoke Old English and you wouldn't be able to understand him. But the generation following him understood him just fine, as did respectively the generation after them, and so on and so forth, as English evolved from Old English to Middle English to Early Modern English to the language we speak now.

At no point can we point to one generational shift and say "Here - right here - we see Old English turn into Middle English." And the same with biological speciation. It's gradual.
 
Old 11-15-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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Alfred the Great spoke Old English and you wouldn't be able to understand him. But the generation following him understood him just fine, as did respectively the generation after them, and so on and so forth, as English evolved from Old English to Middle English to Early Modern English to the language we speak now.

At no point can we point to one generational shift and say "Here - right here - we see Old English turn into Middle English." And the same with biological speciation. It's gradual.
This is a great analogy. It's unfortunate that so many people don't even understand how the theory of evolution actually works even if they don't believe it. Or maybe they are just intentionally ignorant of it or are intentionally spreading misinformation about it. Anyways, here is how the Lord's Prayer evolved over the years.

Old English 450–1066 Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum; Si þin nama gehalgod to becume þin rice gewurþe ðin willa on eorðan swa swa on heofonum.

Middle English 1066–1450 Oure fadir that art in heuenes, halewid be thi name; thi kyndoom come to; be thi wille don in erthe as in heuene.

Early Modern English 1450–1690 Our father which art in heauen, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdome come. Thy will be done, in earth, as it is in heauen.

Modern English 1690–Present: Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.
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