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Old 11-20-2019, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by chaotix View Post
what do you want from ukraine?
i want nothing!
.....everything else is hot air
Saying that you didn't want to rob the bank after getting caught doesn't mean that you didn't commit a crime.

He went off about no quid pro quo AFTER the WB report was out.

 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...60708808486914
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:58 AM
 
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Not quite.
I addressed that in another post.
Unless the witness was in a meeting with Trump and Rudy, where the witness actually heard instructions from POTUS, his testimony is irrelevant gossip.
Sondlan was told by Trump to get with Rudy, "he knows everything"
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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The democrats look so ridiculous. What a complete WASTE of tax dollars for something everyone knows is a waste.

After this gongshow is over even DEMOCRATS are going to vote for Trump, they're going to hate Schiff and his misfit motley crew of losers so much for not being able to watch their morning shows for a week. HAHAHAHA.
That is sure the expression that Nunes has on his face. No worries.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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Based on Sondland's facial expression, I was so waiting for Sondland to call Jordan an *******.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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Trump was very Trump. He stated the truth of what Sondland said he told him. Trump told Sondland he wanted no Quid Pro Quo. There was none.
No QPQ but bribery and extortion. No big deal.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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Mulvaney could testify and clear this whole misunderstanding up.

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/st...01094117605377
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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Trump just said that Sondland was "not a man I knew well."

You knew it was coming.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:09 PM
 
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Irrelevant gossip? Lord help us then. These men were conducting US policy based on what they understood Trump wanted through Rudy Giuliani. It was U.S. taxpayer dollars that were putting them on planes to go do the nation's business.
That's right. In a Court of Law it would not be allowed.

" what they understood Trump wanted"

That's the problem. Unless they heard what they " understood" from Trump directly it is just for the cameras.

Schiff knows this isn't a Court of Law. He previewed the answers that were going to be given. leaked only what benefits him and the Dems, and them muddied the waters with " evidence" from " witnesses" who can't deliver the goods.

The " victim" , the Ukraine President , does not agree with Schiff's narrative. I guess Adam needs to go to Ukraine and start an Inquiry there.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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That's right. In a Court of Law it would not be allowed.

" what they understood Trump wanted"

That's the problem. Unless they heard what they " understood" from Trump directly it is just for the cameras.

Schiff knows this isn't a Court of Law. He previewed the answers that were going to be given. leaked only what benefits him and the Dems, and them muddied the waters with " evidence" from " witnesses" who can't deliver the goods.

The " victim" , the Ukraine President , does not agree with Schiff's narrative. I guess Adam needs to go to Ukraine and start an Inquiry there.
Sondland directly testified the President told him to "talk to Rudy." Rudy instructed Sondland, Volker that Burisma had to be included in the Zelensky announcement to obtain the WH meeting. Trump himself asked Zelensky for an investigation. And told Zelensky to talk to Rudy.

What Sondland cannot do is tie Trump directly to the military aid, saying that it was his clear presumption based on a series of events. For that portion of the quid pro quo Giuliani and Mulvaney need to be heard. Sondland's testimony makes it clear that Giuliani was the point man between Trump and the team. And Mulvaney controlled the money flow.

So where is the disconnect? This testimony and evidence is hardly "gossip."
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