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Old 11-20-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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No, it isn't. All were asked point blank and gave their testimony under oath. No bribery. No QPQ. And today... Trump wanted nothing.
Nope, they testified the orders did not come DIRECTLY to them from Trumps mouth.

Sondland testified he was directed by Trump to coordinate with Rudy G. who he testified DID direct a QPQ.

Gordon Sondland specifically testified he DID see a QPQ.

The excuse now is that it has to come directly through the president and not through an underling to count, sorry, no dice - nearly all of the presidents agenda flows through underlings as it propagates out.

 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: DFW
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No, it isn't. All were asked point blank and gave their testimony under oath. No bribery. No QPQ. And today... Trump wanted nothing.
From the Ambassadors mouth....

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...81953218248706
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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That would be Mark Sandy who testified in secret Saturday and Schiff has the Testimony locked away since it is damaging to his case.

https://twitter.com/joelpollak/statu...10855248662528
Then that's easy to figure out. No wonder Nunes was so mysterious, dropping but a hint.

White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) official Mark Sandy, who testified in the impeachment inquiry Saturday, told congressional investigators that he did not know why aid to Ukraine was held up, The New York Times reported, citing two sources.

We're back to needing Mulvaney.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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No, it isn't. All were asked point blank and gave their testimony under oath. No bribery. No QPQ. And today... Trump wanted nothing.
Not what was in the "call" transcript released by the white house!

Quote:
I would like you to do us a favor though
because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
this whole si�uation with Ukraine, they s_ay Crowdstrike ... I guess
you have one of your weal thy people... The server, they say
Ukraine has.it� There- are a lot. of things that went on, the·
:whole situation .. I think you 1 re _surrounding yourse·lf with some
of the same people. I .
would like to have the Attorney General
call you or your people and I would like you t� ·get to the
bottom of it�
Quote:
Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
mayor bf New York Ci:ty, a great mayor, and I would like him to
call you. I will ask him to call yoti along with the Attorney·_
·· General.· :Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very
capable guy. If you could _speak to him that would be great. The
former ambassador from the United $tates,· the woman., was bad
news �nd th� people she was dealing with in .the Ukraine .were bad
news so I jtist wan� to_let you know that� The ot�er thing,
There's a lot 6f. talk about Biden's son,. that Eiden stopped the
prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so
whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if
you ·can look into it ..
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...ied09.2019.pdf
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Not what was in the "call" transcript released by the white house!
What did Trump get? Biden got the Ukraine's prosecutor fired by bribing them with $1 billion in taxpayer money. That's how bribery works: this for that.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Sondland's not doing Trump any favors. He made it clear using tone that Trump's "I want nothing" repeated twice as he was in a bad mood (also previously testified to) was but a temper tantrum. Specifically:

“I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell [Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy] to do the right thing.”
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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That would be Mark Sandy who testified in secret Saturday and Schiff has the Testimony locked away since it is damaging to his case.
Oh, well there goes Schiff blowing up this argument.

1) Sandy is reviewing his transcript, which is why it was not released.
2) Republicans were free to use excerpts of the transcript.
3) Sandy was not actually the top official.
4) The officials who were the decision makers were subpoenaed and refused to comply.

So another Devin Nunes lie that you bought into debunked.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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What did Trump get? Biden got the Ukraine's prosecutor fired by bribing them with $1 billion in taxpayer money. That's how bribery works: this for that.
The question is: did trump want nothing? The answer is "no" according to the white house transcript containing the details of the favors trump wanted from Ukraine.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Oh, well there goes Schiff blowing up this argument.

1) Sandy is reviewing his transcript, which is why it was not released.
2) Republicans were free to use excerpts of the transcript.
3) Sandy was not actually the top official.
4) The officials who were the decision makers were subpoenaed and refused to comply.

So another Devin Nunes lie that you bought into debunked.
That was perfect timing and content to reopen with.
 
Old 11-20-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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What did Trump get? Biden got the Ukraine's prosecutor fired by bribing them with $1 billion in taxpayer money. That's how bribery works: this for that.
If a public official demands a bribe and you refuse to pay and instead go to the authorities to report the demand, "well I never actually got paid" is a crappy defense for the corrupt official.
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