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Old 12-09-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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Just how bad was the FBI’s Russia FISA? 51 violations and 9 false statements, appendix shows



https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-...se-statements/
That doesn't clear Trump of his lies and smears but of course, you will spin. The facts don't match Trump's narrative. The investigation was justified, period.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Inspector Generals are like the human resource arm of a company.

Human resource divisions are not there to help employees but to help the company that they work for.

Human resource departments take care of problems and protect companies!

Inspector Generals can be said to work for the same reasons.

If there’s a way to say that the department didn’t violate the policy or law .. that is what they will do.

Words like bad behavior and errors in judgment are used to describe the actions of rouge, (aka disposable employees) and are not a true representation of the agency itself.

Now that that is out of the way, let's take a look at some reasons for why this report is very limited in scope.


The Inspector General has said that he was looking into the surveillance of a certain person which we now know is Carter Page.

The problem is ... Carter Page was just one of Trump's campaign associates that was spied on.
(One area where Durham and Barr will dig further into)


The Inspector General is inhibited from speaking to anyone not working at the Department of Justice at the time of his questioning.

If they’ve retired or been fired, he can’t force them to cooperate.
(Think: James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page Et al)

And let's not forget Kevin Clinesmith!
Clinesmith became infamous for his viva le resistance, (to Trump) while investigating the Clinton email fiasco.

The same Clinesmith who was forced off of the Mueller Trump/Russian 'collusion' investigation after text messages showing his dislike/hatred of Trump were exposed.

If they work at a different agency or department the situation is the same and they can't be forced to cooperate with the investigation.

So now, you have an IG report with a lot of words with very little substance!

If you have followed the Investigation into Trump from the beginning you know that there were numerous 'agencies' with their hand in the Russian Collusion fiasco and most especially ... the Steele Dossier.

The dossier that was paid for by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

The dossier was doled out by a number of agencies along with the DOJ and FBI!
(Again, those agencies cannot be compelled to give testimony)

Remember how 'upset' the democrats became when they learned of Bill Barr's appointment as Attorney General?

I believe that they were 'upset' because they had reason to believe that he (Barr) would appoint a Special Prosecutor to head up a real and in-depth investigation, regardless of where it led!
(The Special Prosecutor can compel testimony from outside the agency.)


He did just that!

The Department of Justice has revealed that the probe led by federal prosecutor John Durham has become a criminal investigation due to the wrongdoing it has found.

And Finally ...

How it all began:



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These are but a few of the people that the IG didn't interview.
(If I read the rules of engagement correctly)

I'd say that the report could have looked quite different if they had been interrogated!

Peter Strzok, former deputy chief of counterintelligence
FIRED


Andrew McCabe, former FBI deputy director
FIRED


Lisa Page, former counsel to McCabe
RESIGNED


James Baker, former FBI general counsel
RESIGNED


Bill Priestap, former chief of counterintelligence
RETIRED


James Comey, former FBI director
FIRED


Bruce Ohr, former associate deputy attorney general
REASSIGNED


Christopher Steele, former FBI confidential human source

Steele has never been an FBI employee, but a former British spy
This.

We knew Horowitz' interpretation of this would be soft.

Don't worry folks, Durham and Barr will deliver.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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With no bearing on how the Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
No spy was put into the campaign. No members of the campaign were used to get information on the campaign.

Page and her guy not involved.

All those Trump aids are right where they belong in jail or on their way in.
I hope you've purchased extra food. When the indictments start you may not want to go out.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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i hope you've purchased extra food. When the indictments start you may not want to go out.
lol.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
With no bearing on how the Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
No spy was put into the campaign. No members of the campaign were used to get information on the campaign.

Page and her guy not involved.

All those Trump aids are right where they belong in jail or on their way in.
In addition to repeating the 7 significant errors contained in the first FISA app, OIG identified 10 additional significant errors in the 3 renewal apps, based upon info known to the FBI after first app and before one or more of the renewals...



4 KEY FINDINGS BY THE IG:

1. Investigators had a bias against Trump.

2. Feds used a Confidential Human Source (CHS) against campaign = Spy!

3. CHS recordings didn't back Collusion.

4. Dosser was essential for FISA.


Checkmate.......
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:49 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by KayAnn246 View Post
That doesn't clear Trump of his lies and smears but of course, you will spin. The facts don't match Trump's narrative. The investigation was justified, period.
Enough to lie to a court about it.
The end justified the means.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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In addition to repeating the 7 significant errors contained in the first FISA app, OIG identified 10 additional significant errors in the 3 renewal apps, based upon info known to the FBI after first app and before one or more of the renewals...



4 KEY FINDINGS BY THE IG:

1. Investigators had a bias against Trump.

2. Feds used a Confidential Human Source (CHS) against campaign = Spy!

3. CHS recordings didn't back Collusion.

4. Dosser was essential for FISA.


Checkmate.......
Obviously you did not read the report.
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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Obviously you did not read the report.
Looks like he did, I read the same and it looks like you didn't.... Liberals and lying is like peanut butter and jam...
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:09 PM
 
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Do away with FISA, our government can’t be trusted to not spy on its citizens
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer declined OIG's request for interviews. Wonder why
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