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Old 12-11-2019, 04:10 PM
 
Location: DFW
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There was only 1 FISA warrant, that was on Page. They did not go against Trump.
Good catch Boss. You're helping us out trying to explain. Very few people caught this.

That means all other FBI investigative evidence documented against Manafort, Papadopoulos, or Flynn had to come from some other method of surveillance.

Carter Page was not associated with the campaign or transition after the election, so under what authority did the DOJ allow the Mueller team to gain access to all of the Trump transition emails, texts, electronic and phone communications?

Maybe a good question for Rod Rosenstein by Bulldog Durham under oath with the power to Indict.

Can you say illegal CIA / NSA without on US Citizens warrants ?
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Good catch Boss. You're helping us out trying to explain. Very few people caught this.

That means all other FBI investigative evidence documented against Manafort, Papadopoulos, or Flynn had to come from some other method of surveillance.

Carter Page was not associated with the campaign or transition after the election, so under what authority did the DOJ allow the Mueller team to gain access to all of the Trump transition emails, texts, electronic and phone communications?

Maybe a good question for Rod Rosenstein by Bulldog Durham under oath with the power to Indict.
Patriot Act and all the surveillance allowed when dealing with known foreign agents is my guess. All those you mentioned had a phone issue dealing with Foreign Nationals.

Flynn the perfect example trying to use his position to make money selling access to Trump all on open phone calls.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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Does this report vindicate anyone?

Horowitz: This report does not vindicate anyone.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:45 PM
 
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I think Durham knows things that the IG doesn't, especially with regards to foreign actors, so the bias part of the report can be revised if more facts are revealed.
Whatever needs to come out needs to come out. I just hope Durham doesn't do what Barr and Trump do -- lie.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:45 PM
 
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Yes I have seen him interviewed.

Page had never met Trump or the upper staff according to Page. The IG did not say that Trump was caught dealing with Page.

The only 6 was if Page was working for the Russians.

It turned out Page was working with the CIA.

This stuff right out of a T. Clancy Novel.
He was working for the CIA and the FBI lawyer altered the email to say he was not a CIA asset.

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Old 12-11-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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Does this report vindicate anyone?

Horowitz: This report does not vindicate anyone.
I agree. As an aside, Mueller didn't exonerate Trump either, but that didn't seem to matter. I hope this one does.
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Old 12-11-2019, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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He was working for the CIA and the FBI lawyer altered the email to say he was not a CIA asset.
Correct. The IG said at one point he thought the lawyer involved was still employed. That person needs to be fired. Every thing he did will now have to be double checked to see if he took illegal short cuts for every thing he did in DOJ.

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Old 12-11-2019, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Does this report vindicate anyone?

Horowitz: This report does not vindicate anyone.
I believe he was talking about the agents mentioned in the report. That was his preface.

So I disagree. C. Page and L. Page both vindicated.
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Old 12-11-2019, 05:03 PM
 
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I believe he was talking about the agents mentioned in the report. That was his preface.

So I disagree. C. Page and L. Page both vindicated.
Carter Page never did anything wrong. Lisa Page, different story.
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Old 12-11-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Carter Page never did anything wrong. Lisa Page, different story.
IG said Lisa Page not involved in FISA issue. The email issue is different. Slap on the wrist for using company email for personal communications.

It turns out a lot of FBI used company email for personal communications, both supporting Trump and supporting Clinton.

A lot of writeups.
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