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Did Zlochevsky get his property/money back? What motivated the entire EU, plus World Bank, plus the IMF to also call for Shokin's removal? Were they all worried about Hunter's job, too?
The consensus amongst the international community is that Shokin was falling down on the job. Period. That's why pretty much all of Western Europe, plus the US, plus at least two international banking organizations wanted him gone. Period.
It had nothing to do with Zlochevsky's stuff getting seized. The US made this demand out in the open as part of official foreign policy, this wasn't some secret backroom deal that Biden was hiding.
Plus one small fact - BIDEN DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID DOLLARS. He knew it. Poroshenko knew it. Everyone knew it. That's why Biden said "Call him (Obama)." when questioned on that very topic. You think Barack gave a damn about Hunter's job?
Sondland is a hotelier completely out of his depth in international diplomacy, I'm not buying that this was his idea alone for one second.
To the bold, and yet he was still not fired until finger licking joe said, you don't get paid unless you fire him...
What's that called again? Starts with a prid and end with a quo....come on, we have hope that you can fill in the words....
He was under a FISA Warrant in 2014 and cooperated with the FBI when he was informed that he was at risk. It resulted in the conviction of 2 Russian spies but now in 2016 it’s some sort of conspiracy put a warrant on him based on intelligence.
Did Zlochevsky get his property/money back? What motivated the entire EU, plus World Bank, plus the IMF to also call for Shokin's removal? Were they all worried about Hunter's job, too?
The consensus amongst the international community is that Shokin was falling down on the job. Period. That's why pretty much all of Western Europe, plus the US, plus at least two international banking organizations wanted him gone. Period.
It had nothing to do with Zlochevsky's stuff getting seized. The US made this demand out in the open as part of official foreign policy, this wasn't some secret backroom deal that Biden was hiding.
Plus one small fact - BIDEN DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO WITHHOLD FOREIGN AID DOLLARS. He knew it. Poroshenko knew it. Everyone knew it. That's why Biden said "Call him (Obama)." when questioned on that very topic. You think Barack gave a damn about Hunter's job?
Sondland is a hotelier completely out of his depth in international diplomacy, I'm not buying that this was his idea alone for one second.
Zlochevsky is under investigations for suspicion of embezzling state funds. Shokin was investigating him. So do not pretend Shokin was doing nothing but sitting on his hands.
It does not matter if other people wanted to fire Shokin, Joe Biden should never had been anywhere near this, since his son's former employer was being investigated by Shokin. Biden wanted to install a solid investigator that could be controlled, so as not to go anywhere near Hunter. No wonder Zlochevsky hired Hunter, he needed an insurance policy.
Just because the congress passed a foreign aid bill, does not give Biden the power to use it as a way to muck around in Ukraine's internal criminal justice department demanding they fire specific individuals, and replace them with a "solid" individual to Biden's liking. Ukraine had the power to fire any prosecutor, just as the US can fire our people.
Sondland made his own presumptions, and so did Vindman. Neither man ever went to their superiors to receive clarification. Instead, these men went around behind the president's back spreading their own personal rumors and gossip. I'll wager that over time, the entire agency was full of people spreading rumors, and adding to and expanding these rumors. I presume that many of these people thought these rumors were fact, since Vindman and Sondland seemed like they would know the truth, and yet they only knew their own ignorant presumptions.
Spreading gossip, and rumors is how we ultimately ended up with this whistleblower.
He was under a FISA Warrant in 2014 and cooperated with the FBI when he was informed that he was at risk. It resulted in the conviction of 2 Russian spies but now in 2016 it’s some sort of conspiracy put a warrant on him based on intelligence.
So, he was more of an informant than Steele, who they never used in a case that produced.
Carter page was a friendly. The FBI assumed Page had to be the contact between Trump and Russia. They went in on a hunch?
The Insurance Policy, Strozk & Page discussed in Andy's office.
To the bold, and yet he was still not fired until finger licking joe said, you don't get paid unless you fire him...
Actually he wasn't fired until Obama met with Poroshenko AFTER Joe told them about the withholding of aid.
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Originally Posted by chucksnee
What's that called again? Starts with a prid and end with a quo....come on, we have hope that you can fill in the words....
"Quid pro quo" isn't a crime, the alleged motivation is what makes it a crime. I'm pretty sure this has been discussed extensively since the beginning of the Ukraine drama. Have you not been paying attention?
Proof of which statements? That it wasn't just Biden, or even just the US that wanted Shokin removed? Google it, it was well covered by the media as it was happening, and has been covered exhaustively since this whole Ukraine thing blew up this year.
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