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Hahahahaha ..... using Hunter for his famous name!!! How rich. You should incorporate this in a standup routine. For anyone with two functioning brain cells, this company hired the Son of the Vice President of the United States. But its just a wild coincidence that the Vice President would later use 1 Billion in US Aide as payment for the firing of the prosecutor investigating them for corruption. Yeah, thats it .... just a coincidence
Except Shokin wasn't investigating anyone - that's why the whole world wanted him fired. Duh.
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Show us the evidence that Trump asked for such a public announcement!!!
...The ambassador told the impeachment inquiry that he had told Ukrainians that if they wanted $391 million in military aid released to them, they would have to announce investigations that Trump was demanding they announce. Top officials in the White House were all aware of what was unfolding in the scheme, Sondland said, and the orders for at least one of the quid pro quo deals came directly from Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani...
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Please, don’t confuse facts with the lies being spewed by Schiff. There is not a single shred of evidence to support such a claim!
I have no idea. Are most FISA warrant applications handled this cavalierly? They could be - that would be truly frightening.
Whoever was responsible for the FISA missteps should be held accountable.
I heard last night that this is not the first time errors have been brought before the Senate.
During the hearing you kept hearing them talk about warning's about this happening. Yet they never did anything about it. Even when they controlled the House.
That post depicts the sort of blind faith thinking that allows the crooks we have in DC to get elected.
No blind faith here - I'm not much of a fan of Biden as a candidate, in fact. Just speaking to the facts.
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With about 7 1/2 billion people in the world equally unqualified to hold a position on the board of directors of a major energy company, they just happened to select Hunter Biden's name out of a hat?. Maybe they felt sorry for him because he had just recently been dishonorably discharged from our Navy for drug abuse?...and he just happened to be the son of the American Vice President, who was oblivious to the fact that Hunter now had a $50G/month income? Didn't he wonder how his son could finally move out of the basement?
Sure, just like Hunter was unqualified to be on the board at AMTRAK. Was that GWB trying to "buy" favors, too? How about the unqualified Nikki Haley on the board at Boeing? This is not an uncommon thing, sadly.
I'm sure Biden was aware of Hunter taking that job.
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BTW- if you actually read the infamous transcript- Trump, who obviously is no threat to Marcus Tullius Cicero's position as the best oratorical rhetorician of all time, asked the Ukrainians to re-open the investigation of Burisma and to co-operate with our investigators. He just dropped the names of the Bidens along the way, in his flow-of-consciousness style of speaking in broken sentences. One could not, obviously, investigate Burisma without including Hunter & Joe.
Speaking of blind faith.
Sure, Trump "just happened" to drop the names of the Bidens on that phone call. He also "just happened" to drop their names again on the White House lawn, while once again publicly requesting Ukraine - and this time adding China - to open investigations into "the Bidens". He "just happened" to call Shokin a good prosecutor on the call to Zelensky, too, even though that is demonstrably untrue. He "just happened" to mention Burisma specifically, too, instead of requesting investigations into corruption, generally. Burisma the only company in Ukraine that is likely doing shady things, you figure?
Sorry, that dog simply does not hunt. At all.
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A politician makes decisions in office that should be primarily aimed at improving the lives of his constituents. Those actions could provide secondary gain in winning votes. Too many politicians have that backwards.
I agree 100%. How does what Trump asked for "improve the lives of his constituents"? It doesn't in any real way - it does directly benefit Trump as a politician though. Huh, that's weird....
Their communications showed they obviously didn't like Trump and were glad they could be involved in the potentially damaging investigation. …. The question is whether the investigation was initiated, or unfairly conducted, or inappropriately continued due to their personal feelings. The Horowitz investigation seems to indicate that the initiation may have been appropriate (a lot of lying & cheating to get the FISA warrant. You know Mark Fuhrman didn't have to plant those gloves to frame OJ, either), but the conduction & continuation was not, with motive undetermined.
If they didn't use a government phone this would have never come to light, every FBI agent has some bias one way or the other but the question is did they act with bias.
He never interviewed Lisa Page because he is an IG and not a special prosecutor... He doesn't have the authority to interview her nor the ability to validate anything about her....
The IG has the authority to interview anyone but he doesn't have the power to force them to participate. Lisa Page voluntarily testified for 2 days before the house judiciary committee, Doug Collins released the transcript last year so lets not make believe there is some hidden facts. I wish some in the Trump white house would show some courage and appear as she did.
So your answer is "yes", the FBI somehow knew Page would end up working for Trump when they applied for the first FISA warrant back in 2014 regarding him. I disagree.
If the original FISA warrant happened before Page worked for Trump, then it obviously wasn't all some big conspiracy against Trump. It's simply another example of Trump hiring shady people, the examples are legion.
The IG says the origin of Crossfire Hurricane was legit. There are questions about how the FISA continuations were handled - it looks like rules were broken. Again, Page wasn't working for Trump in 2014, so it couldn't possibly have been a plot to "get Trump".
No, it's definitely you.
He didn't say it was legitimate. He said no wrong doing by the FBI occurred in the beginnings of the investigation. That was because at that time they did not know that the Steele Dossier was a load of crap. Once it was learned by some of these agents that had passed it on before that it was bogus and they kept that information to themselves, it became a serious issue.
Lisa Page resigned, what did she do wrong other than the emails.
That she was Andrew McCabe’s FBI lawyer, and admitted to attending meetings in his office (text messages to Strzok) discussing the “backup plan”, I’d say she was participating in a conspiracy. When two or more people meet, plan, discuss the commission of a crime .... in this case ... illegally spying on a citizen of the United States, on framing a president of the United States ... on attempting to overthrow the President of the United States .... I’d say she’s in pretty deep.
He didn't say it was legitimate. He said no wrong doing by the FBI occurred in the beginnings of the investigation...
A distinction without a difference.
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