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Old 03-25-2020, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Warnings from all serious international organizations were there by mid-January. To deaf ears. No, its not true that we did not have any information at that point. Two whole months went by. Italy probably has had corona virus since mid-December. You simply are trying to get Trump off the hook and point to China. China indeed acted slowly, but really went on lockdown after one and a half months. And so far it seems to have been working. Trump has been dragging his feet for two whole months and now wants to open up everything by Easter. Come on.
That's just bizarre. What version of reality were you living in at the time? The USA was 100% all-in Impeachment at that time, so most people in the USA weren't paying any attention. I was, but most weren't. China was actively shutting everybody up who tried to leak information about coronavirus out to the rest of the world. What do you suppose happened to Li Wenliang and why was the Chinese government so keen to shut him up? For those who regularly watch China, most will agree that the CCP killed him. A whole lot of other people tried to get the information out were disappeared. China has its own isolated state controlled social media, including WeChat. For the entire month of December and January, the Chinese government was actively deleting and suppressing all mention of the Coronavirus, dismissing it as a conspiracy theory. The videos they leaked have largely been disappeared from the Internet.

Sadly, the news media seems to be in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party. They tend to do as they're told when it comes to China. Google, YouTube and Facebook actively suppressed the very mention of Coronavirus, and largely still are. There has been a concerted effort in China and the USA to make belief this disease never existed in the first place, and China was doing it first.

 
Old 03-25-2020, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Looks like Fla. going to be hit hard.

42 Policeman tested positive in Tampa area.
Florida will be one of the hardest places hit and they will need a lot of ice skating rinks and refrigerated trucks.

Perhaps showing an empty ice rink that will soon be converted into a makeshift morgue might spark a few people to stay home.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 06:59 PM
 
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Perhaps it may also change the way we vote.

People may decide to elect more qualified individuals that can be trusted to look out for the best interest of the people instead of their friends and rich donors.
You have too much faith in the intelligence of the American people. What did they learn from 5+ Trillion and the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan?

"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people".....

No.....what will change is that more people are likely to pray. That's been beat into us as the proper reaction to things..as opposed to action.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:00 PM
 
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Warnings from all serious international organizations were there by mid-January. To deaf ears. No, its not true that we did not have any information at that point. Two whole months went by. Italy probably has had corona virus since mid-December. You simply are trying to get Trump off the hook and point to China. China indeed acted slowly, but really went on lockdown after one and a half months. And so far it seems to have been working. Trump has been dragging his feet for two whole months and now wants to open up everything by Easter. Come on.


They knew what was coming.

Senator Burr was telling his cohorts about it in January. He and others promptly proceeded to sell a bunch of stock.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:01 PM
 
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Sadly, the news media seems to be in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party. They tend to do as they're told when it comes to China. Google, YouTube and Facebook actively suppressed the very mention of Coronavirus, and largely still are. There has been a concerted effort in China and the USA to make belief this disease never existed in the first place, and China was doing it first.
Ho Hum. Please tell us how that is going to save Grandma when the GOP wants to kill her quickly so they can get back to the Sports bars?
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:02 PM
 
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Perhaps it may also change the way we vote.

People may decide to elect more qualified individuals that can be trusted to look out for the best interest of the people instead of their friends and rich donors.

None of the Dems are more qualified. It's been Dem policy driving us to "globalism" and open borders and pushing businesses out of America so that now we are dependent on China for our pharmaceuticals and face masks.


When Trump issued the China travel ban, Biden called it xenophobia and Sanders said he would not close borders.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:03 PM
 
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They knew what was coming.

Senator Burr was telling his cohorts about it in January. He and others promptly proceeded to sell a bunch of stock.
The wife and I have been on lockdown since March 1. We were already concerned a week or more before that.

To think that the POTUS, with his intelligence sources telling him daily that this was BIG.....and with the other agencies distilling info and reporting it to him - still was "maybe 15 cases and zero soon".....really, one can't say more than that.

If that's not proof of his failure then nothing is. We will surely be #1 in the world before Sunday and, unless even stricter measures are taken and testing becomes available (it's not) the End Game is going to be killing the weak - i.e Eugenics.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:04 PM
 
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That's just bizarre. What version of reality were you living in at the time? The USA was 100% all-in Impeachment at that time, so most people in the USA weren't paying any attention. I was, but most weren't. China was actively shutting everybody up who tried to leak information about coronavirus out to the rest of the world. What do you suppose happened to Li Wenliang and why was the Chinese government so keen to shut him up? For those who regularly watch China, most will agree that the CCP killed him. A whole lot of other people tried to get the information out were disappeared. China has its own isolated state controlled social media, including WeChat. For the entire month of December and January, the Chinese government was actively deleting and suppressing all mention of the Coronavirus, dismissing it as a conspiracy theory. The videos they leaked have largely been disappeared from the Internet.

Sadly, the news media seems to be in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party. They tend to do as they're told when it comes to China. Google, YouTube and Facebook actively suppressed the very mention of Coronavirus, and largely still are. There has been a concerted effort in China and the USA to make belief this disease never existed in the first place, and China was doing it first.
BS.

Trump was impeached in December and no reasonable person believed that the Senate was going to convict. Sure enough. In January, there was a brief show with a few speeches. no witnesses or testimony or anything resembling and actual attempt to get to the truth of the matter.

There was plenty of time in January to pay attention to what was going on in the world. Democrats tried to raise the alarm, but Trump insisted that it was all a Democratic hoax, everything was under control.

In fact. Trump and the Republicans continued to maintain that all was well up until a week or so ago.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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BS.

Trump was impeached in December and no reasonable person believed that the Senate was going to convict. Sure enough. In January, there was a brief show with a few speeches. no witnesses or testimony or anything resembling and actual attempt to get to the truth of the matter.

There was plenty of time in January to pay attention to what was going on in the world. Democrats tried to raise the alarm, but Trump insisted that it was all a Democratic hoax, everything was under control.

In fact. Trump and the Republicans continued to maintain that all was well up until a week or so ago.
A lot of deaths will do that.
 
Old 03-25-2020, 07:06 PM
 
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None of the Dems are more qualified. It's been Dem policy driving us to "globalism" and open borders and pushing businesses out of America so that now we are dependent on China for our pharmaceuticals and face masks.


When Trump issued the China travel ban, Biden called it xenophobia and Sanders said he would not close borders.
It's as if you don't know we've been trading all over the world since....well, since before the USA existed.

When the Pilgrims landed they found part of an Iron Plow.....a French dude had left it there (on the Cape).

The Portuguese and Dutch and Brits and Spanish and French and you and I have acheived our wealth by trade....

And yet someone you create a fairy tales as if this was not the History of the World?

That's fantastic. You might as well ask that we live on a farm and use a wooden stick to plow the field.
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