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Old 09-16-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The claim is that the virus was manufactured, not that it was leaked from a lab.
Why would these be mutually exclusive ?

It was engineered in the lab, then it accidentally escaped. I don't believe it was intentional, and I don't believe it was made to be a weapon. Plenty of older posts on here discuss these aspects.

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Old 09-16-2020, 02:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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...it’s been established already that it was not engineered...
No such thing has been established. Everything is a theory at this point, as the CCP has long since destroyed any evidence.
I haven't seen you post anywhere on C-D about this topic, which I have been following closely, and reporting on since March.
Do some catch-up reading.

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Old 09-16-2020, 02:33 PM
 
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No such thing has been established. Everything is a theory at this point, as the CCP has long since destroyed any evidence.
I haven't seen you post anywhere on C-D about this topic, which I have been following closely, and reporting on since March.
Do some catch-up reading.
LOL Destroyed what evidence? China released the genomic sequence of the virus for scientists around the world to study.

It has been established that there is NO evidence the virus has been engineered. Where have you been?
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1....920249v1.full
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...1.2020.1733440
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:37 PM
 
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Why would these be mutually exclusive ?

It was engineered in the lab, then it accidentally escaped. I don't believe it was intentional, and I don't believe it was made to be a weapon. Plenty of older posts on here discuss these aspects.
No, it wasn't engineered in a lab. They got it from the caves and brought it back to the lab.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...-sneakier-sars

Again, there is absolutely no evidence the virus was engineered in the lab by humans.
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:46 PM
 
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Go with the first explanation China gave how COVID originated: It came from U.S. solders.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It has been established that there is NO evidence the virus has been engineered. Where have you been?
Keep smackin' your head, you'll get it eventually.

Everyone in the virology field knows it was engineered in that lab.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...e-coronavirus/
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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And yet we have no evidence for any of these claims and number one has already been debunked.
We have no evidence for the other claims either like, it came from bat soup, the wet market , or just Wuhan bats.
And how has GOF versions escaping the lab been debunked? I could see claims of proof being debunked, but that is not the same thing.

Most of what has been asserted as true is unlikely, and with no evidence.


Anyway , no point with the claim of evidence. The claim is entirely dependent on the evidence. If it is not timely or flimsy then it will speak for itself. its just that its more plausible than say, "anonymous sources. "
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They got it from the caves and brought it back to the lab.
Yes, that was the first step. Then they started gain of function experiments on it.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/58619916-post949.html

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Again, there is absolutely no evidence the virus was engineered in the lab by humans.
Nor is there any evidence that it was zoonotic -- where's the intermediary host ?
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:26 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We have no evidence for the other claims either like, it came from bat soup, the wet market , or just Wuhan bats.
And how has GOF versions escaping the lab been debunked?
Diesel is more concerned with braggadocio than with fact checking.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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Rule of Law foundation or Soros' Open Society, that remind me a quote from Julian Assange.
It's funded by Steve Bannon and a Chinese oligarch exile.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ve-Bannon.html

They're desperate to do anything to make any previous Trump statement on Covid appear true.

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Keep smackin' your head, you'll get it eventually.

Everyone in the virology field knows it was engineered in that lab.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...e-coronavirus/
It's an article about one of her theories being panned. Like other scientists, she has several theories, including that it evolved from several bat coronaviruses over the last 60 years. That was consistent with the finding that the 2005 SARS virus would take 20 to 80 years to mutate into the COVID-19. She's agreeing witht the researchers that there are other undiscovered coronaviruses in the wild that will eventually cause another pandemic.

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