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Kind of, yes. He was a fleeing criminal. She was a rioter breaking and entering. Both didn't deserve to die. Both were wrong for putting the police in that situation.
So who is more at fault here?
We know A LOT about the Daunte Wright incident since there is full video and can actually surmise that it was an accident from what Potter said on tape. We also know a lot about both the officer and the victim.
We know pretty much nothing about the Babbitt incident - except for the shooting itself, and then it wasn't from the POV of the officer. Why was Babbitt shot when there were lots of people to choose from? Why was she targeted? Is that who the officer meant to shoot? Did he even mean to shoot? How experienced was this officer? Who are they? How many years on the force? How many people were with the officer? Did he/she fear for their personal safety?
Why has so much info been released on the Wright incident and pretty much nothing on the Babbitt one?
When the cop (accidentally) shot Daunte Wright, the Mayor immediately declared she should be fired, she was immediately doxxed and she and her family were chased out of their house (presently hiding in an undisclosed location), she has resigned from the Police, and she is being charged with 2nd Degree Murder.
When the cop (not accidentally) shot Ashli Babbitt in the capitol though she was unarmed and posing no threat to anyone, That cop has never been identified, has faced no known inquiries, and has been declared innocent without any charges or trial.
Glad to see we have real Equal Justice Under the Law.
The Capitol was under assault. That would be substantiated by the doors bashed in, the broken window that Babbitt was scrambling through. The people assaulting the Capital posed a threat. The cop won't be identified, because his safety would be threatened if he were. That is substantiated by the numerous nutjobs posting on this thread.
We know A LOT about the Daunte Wright incident since there is full video and can actually surmise that it was an accident from what Potter said on tape. We also know a lot about both the officer and the victim.
We know pretty much nothing about the Babbitt incident - except for the shooting itself, and then it wasn't from the POV of the officer. Why was Babbitt shot when there were lots of people to choose from? Why was she targeted? Is that who the officer meant to shoot? Did he even mean to shoot? How experienced was this officer? Who are they? How many years on the force? How many people were with the officer? Did he/she fear for their personal safety?
Why has so much info been released on the Wright incident and pretty much nothing on the Babbitt one?
all very good questions that our disgustingly partisan msm has absolutely no interest in asking.
there were video and stills out there immediately after this shooting that have long since been wiped that could answer some of these questions. no one is demanding to see them.
The Capitol was under assault. That would be substantiated by the doors bashed in, the broken window that Babbitt was scrambling through. The people assaulting the Capital posed a threat. The cop won't be identified, because his safety would be threatened if he were. That is substantiated by the numerous nutjobs posting on this thread.
And the Minnesota cop hasn't been threatened?
They've built an entire wall around her house because of the threats.
Either release every cop's name in every incident, or release none of them.
Can you even IMAGINE what the result would have been if that document had been released if a black protester had been killed by a Capitol police officer?
This is absolutely disgusting!
Yes, I do understand that D.C. is more than 90% leftist and so trying to find an impartial jury would be difficult (if not impossible), and I also not wanting to waste taxpayers' money on an unprovable case, but when has either of those situations prevented a trial when emotions were running high?
Even those British soldiers involved in the so-called Boston Massacre of 1770 received a trial, and six of them were acquitted. Why shouldn't the person who shot Babbitt receive the same opportunity to be found not guilty.
Or would that be a problem because, just maybe, he wasn't.
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They've built an entire wall around her house because of the threats.
Either release every cop's name in every incident, or release none of them.
The cops name was not released until the investigation concluded that it was an accidental shooting, had the investigation concluded that there were no fault or the investigation was on going the name would not be released. In the capitol police case the investigation just finished and he was cleared of any wrong doing why would the name be released? When I say investigation I mean the internal investigation not the subsequent criminal case. If you are so inclined to do some research and read some articles, you will see that it is a hot button issue and its on a state by state basis, with federal agents having a special privacy protection. If you want to go down the rabbit hole there are currently dozens of cases of abuse reported, in trial and adjudicated where the federal officer was never identified, these are Seattle and Portland cases, people blinded by rubber bullets, a couple of cases of false imprisonment where someone was grabbed by an agent who did not identified himself as one, held in a van for 18 hrs to confirm their identity which was never asked of them. This isnt a new dynamic, public sympathy drives public support, support translates to votes, votes to power, power is applied to the lower keyholders (police dept).
The issue is you have this core group of people who think the Jan 6 event was the boston teat party, while the majority of the nation is horrified. The same group of people see politicians that dont agree with them as corrupt, less than human entities, while the majority of the people IMO correctly interpret that trying to stop a representative from conducting their official business is violating the rights off all the people they represent, so comparison of burning down a wendys are completely off base. Which is to say, not a lot of sympathy for the Jan 6 event.
If someone broke into your house with a mob behind them wouldn't you shoot the first person who entered to deter the rest. If not, how would you handle it. Would you wait to see if that person climbing into your window was armed. And then what?
To be fair, the shooter’s defense was NOT that he believed he was in personal danger in his own home. That would be your defense if somebody broke into your house and you felt threatened so you killed her.
I think the defense was that the shooter believed her move over the barricade put the lives of various politicians in mortal danger so he deliberately shot her in broad daylight.
The fact that she was small, female, and empty-handed is interesting and makes the deliberate shooting relatively unique... and it is highly unusual (virtually unprecedented) in the US to kill a person who is believed to be endangering public officials...but even if he was mistaken in his good faith belief that she put the lives of the politicians in danger, by statute he is not charged
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Can you even IMAGINE what the result would have been if that document had been released if a black protester had been killed by a Capitol police officer?
This is absolutely disgusting!
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So you are getting upset at something you just made up? That sounds about right. IMO there were some POCs in the crowd, had it been a black dude dressed as the buffalo man I am sure the people that dont care now wouldnt care.
What do you think she and all of those who were ready to follow her were doing there? Hint: They did not have the lawmakers' best interests at heart. They were there to stop them from doing their job, and they had already proven they would do whatever it took to get that outcome. Their propensity for violence had already been well established.
She was a violent insurrectionist who needed to be stopped before she opened the floodgates for the rest of the mob to follow through.
There were real people they were threatening on the other side of that barrier. Had they gotten through, who knows how many people on the other side of that barrier would have been hurt or worse by this angry, out of control mob.
Ashli thought she was a badass by breaking through where she knew she didn't belong. No tears for her.
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