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Old 05-02-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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IMO getting the vaccine is a personal choice no ones business, but Private business's can require employees to get the vaccine, or shoppers to be vaccinated before one enter their private property.
Our nation and the whole world wants you vaccinated so as to help reduce the size of the active virus pool. The larger it is and longer it persists, the more apt we will find new variants that are either more virulent than the current virus, or able to bypass our current vaccines. The decision remains a personal choice. Hoping many patriots will discuss this with their own doctor and eventually realize the cause.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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My state, Oklahoma has gone from 4,000 new cases a day in January to about 200 a day now. Some of the states with elevated case counts are states like Michigan and Oregon who had strict lock downs that probably caused lower herd immunity numbers. They will need a higher vaccination rate to get it under control. Of course with many Americans thinking that vaccines are bad or make things worse (none of which is true) we may struggle to get to herd immunity.
But that has zero to do with the vaccine and everything to do with the weather changes. May 2, 2020 Oklahoma reported 103 cases.. nice try.

It is the weather that clearly drops covid.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:44 AM
 
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IMO getting the vaccine is a personal choice no ones business, but Private business's can require employees to get the vaccine, or shoppers to be vaccinated before one enter their private property.

I think that remains to be seen and will be tested in courts. On it's face, it would seem to be a HIPPA violation as it forces you to reveal at least one medical record.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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By pfizer's own account, it's efficacy drops from 95% to 91% @ 6 months.

Please cite this account.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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An Arizona legislator, Rep. Alma Hernandez, who was inoculated two months ago and who also routinely wears a mask, practices social distancing and practices good hygiene, has contracted the coronavirus.



So all of that did not protect her. At the end of the day, it is up to her God given immunity system to protect her from this virus, come what may.

So much for the "experts".

Nobody ever said the vaccines, social distancing, and hygiene were 100% effective. I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but it is clearly not from a credible source. Bottom line, the containment methods employed during this pandemic have been about as effective as predicted. Not everyone who suffers a gunshot to the head dies, so does that mean it's OK to shoot people in the head? Your "logic" makes no sense.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:54 AM
 
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I think that remains to be seen and will be tested in courts. On it's face, it would seem to be a HIPPA violation as it forces you to reveal at least one medical record.

Those of you who keep yapping about HIPPA have apparently never read the actual law. I suggest you do so.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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An Arizona legislator, Rep. Alma Hernandez, who was inoculated two months ago and who also routinely wears a mask, practices social distancing and practices good hygiene, has contracted the coronavirus.



So all of that did not protect her. At the end of the day, it is up to her God given immunity system to protect her from this virus, come what may.

So much for the "experts".
Because the VAX is not an immunization.
It is a gene altering nano tech, that has eventually killed ALL animals it was tested on.

You are the clinical test, or a victim of eugenics. You decide.
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Old 05-02-2021, 07:59 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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What's the alternative? Follow the clueless lemmings off the cliff? Even if you manage all your risks, sometimes things can go wrong. It's just bad luck.
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Old 05-02-2021, 08:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I think that remains to be seen and will be tested in courts. On it's face, it would seem to be a HIPPA violation as it forces you to reveal at least one medical record.
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Those of you who keep yapping about HIPPA have apparently never read the actual law. I suggest you do so.
HIPPA involves medical info already documented.
The public cannot violate HIPPA. Only government and medical staff members, even pharmacists can break those laws.

It is every persons 5th amendment to not answer questions.
If a business is open to the public, with public access, they cannot discriminate against any person with a medical condition. Not one.

If the business wants the lawsuit, and some individual people(those taking action) also being held personally liable for damages, too.
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Old 05-02-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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But that has zero to do with the vaccine and everything to do with the weather changes. May 2, 2020 Oklahoma reported 103 cases.. nice try.
Nice try? New cases in Oklahoma over the past 7 days averaged 200 a day. That is a fact. What does May 2nd have to do with that? And they were dropping back in February during the deep freeze that lasted 3 weeks.

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It is the weather that clearly drops covid.
Israel? Mild weather all year and their cases began dropping in mid January when the vaccine was in roll out. The UK which has similar weather to the countries surrounding it is doing much better than the countries surrounding it just like Israel. The only difference is both countries have vaccinated a much higher percentage of their citizens than the countries surrounding them.
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