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I was looking at Portland the other day. What they have is a bump in cases, not deaths. I would hope as they have had more vaccinated, that the deaths will not soon rise. Since the cases in those vaccinated tend to be much milder. A short time will tell...
I don't know, wondering about a lot of this but we have a lot of extended family in Oregon and Pac NW (it's where a lot of our Filipino branch lives) and they've been saying they're getting a bump in hospitalizations, not just cases. The Oregon governor (can't remember her name) has already moved to re impose some of the restrictions in Oregon and shut down some events and indoor dining or restaurants, and restrict sizes even outdoors, because the hospitals and especially the hospitals ICU's are filling up so fast. Vaccinated and unvaccinated both, from what they're saying.
Chile is also one of the most fully vaccinated countries though, and they've also gotten a bad wave. And most recently, Oregon which is one of the most vaccinated US states, is having one of the worst COVID19 waves, vaccine or not. Which could be caused by the mutants.
Nope.
About 40% of adults in Oregon have received at least one shot.
Nationally, 42.6% of Americans have received at least one shot, according to the CDC.
I don't know, wondering about a lot of this but we have a lot of extended family in Oregon and Pac NW (it's where a lot of our Filipino branch lives) and they've been saying they're getting a bump in hospitalizations, not just cases. The Oregon governor (can't remember her name) has already moved to re impose some of the restrictions in Oregon and shut down some events and indoor dining or restaurants, and restrict sizes even outdoors, because the hospitals and especially the hospitals ICU's are filling up so fast. Vaccinated and unvaccinated both, from what they're saying.
Type into Google either 'Portland covid' or 'Oregon covid' and the basic results are the same. Cases going up, but not deaths. If the deaths don't rise, then the vaccines are working.
That seems to have changed only recently though, and may have come about because of sense of futility with the vaccine not working esp for a lot of the mutants (maybe even the ones coming in from India) and vaccinated people getting so sick. A month ago when this new wave apparently began, Oregon was one of the country's most vaccinated states, and even now they aren't too far off from the national average. Hasn't stopped this new wave.
Type into Google either 'Portland covid' or 'Oregon covid' and the basic results are the same. Cases going up, but not deaths. If the deaths don't rise, then the vaccines are working.
But again, hospitalizations are going way up, and ICU admissions are going way up in Oregon too-- the deaths usually take a couple more weeks to kick in large numbers, that's even what happened with this wave in India. So the hospitalizations already are that "red-alert" indicator says it isn't just mild cases, it's actual deadly COVID-19 that's dangerous enough that people are getting deathly sick, and having to go to ICU. Not even necessary to wait for a spike in deaths to see that. That's why the governor recently put the restrictions back in, the ICU doctors and nurses are exhausted and don't have the equipment or staff to deal with the rush of super-sick patients.
That seems to have changed only recently though, and may have come about because of sense of futility with the vaccine not working esp for a lot of the mutants (maybe even the ones coming in from India) and vaccinated people getting so sick. A month ago when this new wave apparently began, Oregon was one of the country's most vaccinated states, and even now they aren't too far off from the national average. Hasn't stopped this new wave.
The article I linked to is 3 hours old. Post references to back up your claims or else I'll just assume you're making things up.
That seems to have changed only recently though, and may have come about because of sense of futility with the vaccine not working esp for a lot of the mutants (maybe even the ones coming in from India) and vaccinated people getting so sick. A month ago when this new wave apparently began, Oregon was one of the country's most vaccinated states, and even now they aren't too far off from the national average. Hasn't stopped this new wave.
I don't find Oregon to have mutants not covered by the vaccines. Where are you finding this?
Have you no shame? They are not. Most people respond to this virus in a way that is entirely natural and normal, with many experiencing no noticeable symptoms at all, many others nothing worse than a case of the sniffles, and a smaller percentage something closer to a case of the flu.
And many others are just 'naturally immune,' apparently because of past encounters with coronavirus strains that are sufficiently similar to stimulate an effective immune response from our immunity systems. I get it that you want to parse words around that in order to try to scare people in an attempt to make them uncertain and hopefully more dependent on people such as yourself. But we all have some degree of common sense understanding of how immunity works.
It is so desirable right now that everyone be able to have confidence and trust in medical professionals, such as yourself. It literally turns my stomach to see the extent that you are shilling for these "vaccines" and the larger control oriented agenda that is associated with it. Rather than engendering trust, your are promoting distrust with these sorts of remarks. I know that is not what you want, but it is what you are doing.
These "vaccines" are not superior for producing immunity to this virus than most people's personal immunity systems. It is breathtaking to see you promoting such misinformation. Especially when we do not know or understand what sort of long term effects there will be from taking of these inoculations, since they were so rushed in their production.
It's breathtaking to see that you think you know more than medical researchers or professionals.
P.S. What are the long term effects of Covid? I'll wait.
And to argue that getting the disease is safer than getting the vaccine is so non-sensical that it does not deserve a comment.
Well it can make some sense, if we start from when we are about done with vaccinations. Assuming we vaccinate the far majority of high risks. Then at that point, at least up until we might encounter a new variant that bypasses our vaccines, the risks of hospitalization and death would be much lower. Still not as safe as the vaccines IMO, but by then hopefully we might have more leeway, and conquer the Pandemic despite the anti-vaxxers.
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