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I am beginning to think he isn't lying - he actually DOESN'T KNOW the facts. It is said he doesn't watch TV at all. Not like Trump who had several TVs on all day which he watched closely. So, if his people are feeding him alternative facts, that's what he knows. The question is why are they lying to him?
He needs to turn on the TV - watch CNN, listen to Clarissa Ward, turn on FOX, watch overseas commentators.
So y'all are complaining that he hasn't talked to any leaders. He names 3 he's talked to, and, I guess they aren't good enough?
First of all, I don't understand people can be satisfied that he only talked to 3 for the whole period. Then, the whole speech with Q&A (from a pre-approved list) lasted only 24 mins after we had not seen him for a while. WTF????
I'm in my late 20s and the initial war started when I was a child. I don't agree with the beginnings or the conduct of everyone during. But I grew up with many friends from the region and understood that stability was going to take a lot more time. But for the sake of the future generations needing education and opportunities.
When Biden talks about how the Afghani people needed to help themselves and build their own way out I just feel sick. They obviously needed us, they clearly didn't want us to leave and feared for their country.
We weren't at war in Afghanistan. We were providing support and security. It's not as sexy as a war, but just as important and to say we're not responsible or it's not worth it is a joke.
Why the hell are we still operating bases in Japan and Korea then? Why have soldiers all over Africa and hold military drills with other nations feeling threatened by opposing forces. You say these people deserve help but the people in Afghanistan don't!
Its just not right and it's mind boggling how this keeps getting worse by the hour at this point.
First of all, I don't understand people can be satisfied that he only talked to 3 for the whole period. Then, the whole speech with Q&A (from a pre-approved list) lasted only 24 mins after we had not seen him for a while. WTF????
I didn't say I was satisfied. Someone posted here that he hasn't talked to ANY world leaders since Afghan fell. I believed that. I then watched his speech. He stated the 3 leaders he has talked to in the last few days. I came here to post that because, as we all should (and most do), it's important to come here and try to counteract the massive amounts of BS posted here every minute.
Once I posted that he said he talked to 3 world leaders (which, of course, might be a big fat lie in and of itself), I got one reply with the three stooges on it (so obviously some smart person here didn't like conflicting information) and the next comments were whining about how it's not good enough. Talk about moving the goal posts.
I'm in my late 20s and the initial war started when I was a child. I don't agree with the beginnings or the conduct of everyone during. But I grew up with many friends from the region and understood that stability was going to take a lot more time. But for the sake of the future generations needing education and opportunities.
When Biden talks about how the Afghani people needed to help themselves and build their own way out I just feel sick. They obviously needed us, they clearly didn't want us to leave and feared for their country.
We weren't at war in Afghanistan. We were providing support and security. It's not as sexy as a war, but just as important and to say we're not responsible or it's not worth it is a joke.
Why the hell are we still operating bases in Japan and Korea then? Why have soldiers all over Africa and hold military drills with other nations feeling threatened by opposing forces. You say these people deserve help but the people in Afghanistan don't!
Its just not right and it's mind boggling how this keeps getting worse by the hour at this point.
A lot of it gets down to what our mission is and what it's been approved for. Our mission was never to go there and build there country up. We've done that in some instances, but this was not the mission of Afghanistan. As you know, we went there for one purpose and that was post-9/11 snuffing out of terrorists involved in that. We stayed. We put billions into their hands to help them defend themselves, as we do with other nations. But we don't always have troops there "on guard." Trump Admin and Biden Admins agreed that we needed to get out of their finally, or stay forever. At some point, you gotta go. Or, hell, just totally take them over and turn them into America then.
We are in other countries such as Japan and Korea, not to patrol them and keep them as a democracy, but be cause, strategically, it's a good place to be, at the ready, in our defense against the Russia, China, etc.
We provide assistance to so many countries to help them defend themselves but we are a presence there. Think about Taiwan.
They you are with the old strawman again. Why don't you just try discussing the points raised rather than drawing your own illogical conclusions to argue against?
I have to agree with you, that poster wants a minimum of 2_500 soldiers to remain there and has stated so in previous posts. If you bring up valid points they are ignored and the response instead....is of how terrorism hasn't been defeated.
Senior Trump Officials Rip Former Boss for Afghanistan Pact: ‘The Taliban Didn’t Defeat Us. We Defeated Ourselves.’
For days now, former President Donald Trump has tried to pin the fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban squarely on his successor, President Joe Biden. But several top officials in his administration are calling out their former boss for trying to distance himself from a fire they believe he started.
Appearing on a podcast with Bari Weiss Wednesday, H.R. McMaster — Trump’s former national security adviser — laid blame squarely at the feet of Trump and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for signing what he deems an ill-fated deal with the Taliban in February 2020.
“Our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” McMaster said. “This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves.”
Similarly, former Trump defense secretary Mark Esper — in a CNN International interview Tuesday — maintained that Trump’s vocal impatience with wanting U.S. troops out of Afghanistan had a significant impact on the situation.
I didn't say I was satisfied. Someone posted here that he hasn't talked to ANY world leaders since Afghan fell. I believed that. I then watched his speech. He stated the 3 leaders he has talked to in the last few days. I came here to post that because, as we all should (and most do), it's important to come here and try to counteract the massive amounts of BS posted here every minute.
Once I posted that he said he talked to 3 world leaders (which, of course, might be a big fat lie in and of itself), I got one reply with the three stooges on it (so obviously some smart person here didn't like conflicting information) and the next comments were whining about how it's not good enough. Talk about moving the goal posts.
This is a fast moving thread, as you know, but more importantly - I think you may have answered your question as to why you didn't get a response. It's in bold.
Biden has no credibility. He said he spoke with the leaders of three countries, and most of us are waiting to see what those leaders have to say, if anything.
This is a fast moving thread, as you know, but more importantly - I think you may have answered your question as to why you didn't get a response. It's in bold.
Biden has no credibility. He said he spoke with the leaders of three countries, and most of us are waiting to see what those leaders have to say, if anything.
I'm sure they will quickly report if they did not speak with him. It has been confirmed that the did speak with Boris Johnson.
I'm sure they will quickly report if they did not speak with him. It has been confirmed that the did speak with Boris Johnson.
I believe you, but I'm wondering who confirmed that? The White House?
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