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Old 03-03-2022, 12:39 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Never going to happen. The children and grandchildren of "Latino" immigrants do NOT speak Spanish. There is no generational transfer of the Spanish language in the United States.
I have to think you've never been to greater Miami or some Texas and Arizona border towns

 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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I can’t answer OP’s question. That said Hispanics have been here since the late 1400’s, Spanish the first European language spoken in the New Word, and mostly still is.
Doesn't matter. We as the U.S. adopted English as our national de facto language not Spanish. The only reason we have so many Spanish speakers in our country is because of massive illegal immigration.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Doesn't matter. We as the U.S. adopted English as our national de facto language not Spanish. The only reason we have so many Spanish speakers in our country is because of massive illegal immigration.
No you have a part of Mexican heritage from the git go in very large states. California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico -hmm wonder why it was called that huh ? The Cubans and now Central/ South Americans are in large cities, and have been in New York, DC, and Florida.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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I have to think you've never been to greater Miami or some Texas and Arizona border towns
My family is from Texas!

"Latino" immigrants speak Spanish, not the native-born. Texas is full of English-speaking Mexicans.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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That's a politically fabricated bull**** bureaucratic label. I wish they would get rid of both "hispanic" and "non-hispanic" labels. Nothing about it is real. The people labeled "hispanic" don't even speak Spanish half the time.

Something like 80% of Puerto-Rican Americans don't speak Spanish at all.
You could have fooled me living in So. Calif. I hear Hispanics speaking Spanish all the time. In fact it's the norm not the exception. They don't all look like they just crossed the border either and they are speaking Spanish to their kids to, not English.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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There happen to be at least 18 Hispanic countries sharing a twofold continental landmass with the United States whom millions have already traversed to enter this country. Forty two million people from Latin America have expressed a desire to relocate here. If you combine those numbers with the illegal population of probably 30 million at least with the current 65 million residing here the number of Hispanics residing in the USA balloons up to 167 million people. For perspective there's 264 million non Hispanics in the US as of 2017. You're looking at rapid ethno-cultural transformations that would only be compounded further by the birth rate of their women and influx of even more over the coming decades.

Personally, I say let the relatively well off nations of Central and South America like Chile and Panama accept them. The United States doesn't need to be continuously inundated with population growth in some bizarre contest to see if we can reach India or China's size.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:51 PM
 
Location: New York City
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My family is from Texas!

"Latino" immigrants speak Spanish, not the native-born. Texas is full of English-speaking Mexicans.
Yeah I realize but my point is it's possible and it has happened that an area is so dominated by Spanish that there is no need to learn English. This has happened in Doral and other towns, the kids don't learn english because everything at the school is in Spanish

I don't think it's going to be widespread like that but it's going to happen in clusters
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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There happen to be at least 18 Hispanic countries sharing a twofold continental landmass with the United States whom millions have already traversed to enter this country. Forty two million people from Latin America have expressed a desire to relocate here. If you combine those numbers with the illegal population of probably 30 million at least with the current 65 million residing here the number of Hispanics residing in the USA balloons up to 167 million people. For perspective there's 264 million non Hispanics in the US as of 2017. You're looking at rapid ethno-cultural transformations that would only be compounded further by the birth rate of their women and influx of even more over the coming decades.

Personally, I say let the relatively well off nations of Central and South America like Chile and Panama accept them. The United States doesn't need to be continuously inundated with population growth in some bizarre contest to see if we can reach India or China's size.
I couldn't agree me and you expressed exactly what is happening in our country. Why would we want a foreign demographic/culture to replace ours? Would Mexico or any other Hispanic country want their demographics, culture and language replaced by a foreign one especially via illegal immigration? No of course they wouldn't and rightly so! It's neither natural nor lawful!
 
Old 03-03-2022, 12:57 PM
 
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Yeah I realize but my point is it's possible and it has happened that an area is so dominated by Spanish that there is no need to learn English. This has happened in Doral and other towns, the kids don't learn english because everything at the school is in Spanish

I don't think it's going to be widespread like that but it's going to happen in clusters
It's like that in the southwest to and if illegal immigration isn't stopped it will happen all over our country. Hispanics also enjoy the largest quotas for legal immigration into our country. What happened to diversity? It's a recipe for non-assimilation and colonization.
 
Old 03-03-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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Yeah I realize but my point is it's possible and it has happened that an area is so dominated by Spanish that there is no need to learn English. This has happened in Doral and other towns, the kids don't learn english because everything at the school is in Spanish

I don't think it's going to be widespread like that but it's going to happen in clusters
well you're right....Cubans that came to Miami during Mariel. He has an insurance company in Hialeah....been here 50 years...and can not communicate in English
They grew up in Hialeah...and now live in Doral
His wife's sister is married to a Cuban....that does not speak or understand one word of English
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