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The most conservative scientific data presented by the vaxxers says that two people die from the vaccines for every one life they save. The vaxxes don't work and natural immunity does so we should be banning the vaxxes not forcing them.
The most conservative scientific data presented by the vaxxers says that two people die from the vaccines for every one life they save. The vaxxes don't work and natural immunity does so we should be banning the vaxxes not forcing them.
Shameless drivel! According to you, half of the population will die in just a few years. The most conservative data is crackpot fake data, for conspiracy theorists, who like to impress themselves.
the likelyhood of me contracting covid is miniscule
4.77 million people thought the same thing. Theyre now dead. The numbers would be much higher if everyone took your approach.
Missing from all your data is how many died from vaccines.
What an a absolutely cowardly response to a very detailed and thoughtful response written to you in post #88. Hell, you couldn't even quote my response (obviously you couldn't refute it).
And I rest my case on why people don't respond to posters like you that attempt to paint anyone that is not pro-vaccine as ignorant, conspiracy nuts (I'm so sick of people like you gaslighting). The bottom line is you're simply intellectually rigid and close minded on the subject so no one can have a rational and civil discussion with you.
So this ONE writer who cites simply "doctors" is right (without giving any details as to which doctors, which studies, etc.), and every other doctor and government official who has stated that there have been hundreds of deaths directly related to the vaccines is wrong? And so are the literally hundreds of people who have recounted stories about how "perfectly healthy" people under the age of 40 suddenly died within 48 hours of getting the injection*?
*And, yes, we all know how much anecdotal evidence is usually worth, but after reading so many personal accounts, it makes me and every other open-minded person doubt the "vaccines are 99.99% safe" narrative at least a little bit!
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So this ONE writer who cites simply "doctors" is right (without giving any details as to which doctors, which studies, etc.), and every other doctor and government official (not to mention the literally hundreds of people who have recounted stories about how "perfectly healthy" people under the age of 40 suddenly died within 48 hours of getting the injection*) who has stated that deaths directly related to the vaccines are wrong??
*And, yes, we all know how much anecdotal evidence is usually worth, but after reading so many personal accounts, it makes me and every other open-minded person doubt the "vaccines are 99.99% safe narrative at least a little bit!
There comes a point where we need to realize that this isn’t a good faith discussion anymore. The day my employment is affected is the day I leave blue states for good. These people are too far gone.
So this ONE writer who cites simply "doctors" is right (without giving any details as to which doctors, which studies, etc.), and every other doctor and government official (not to mention the literally hundreds of people who have recounted stories about how "perfectly healthy" people under the age of 40 suddenly died within 48 hours of getting the injection*) who has stated that deaths directly related to the vaccines are wrong??
*And, yes, we all know how much anecdotal evidence is usually worth, but after reading so many personal accounts, it makes me and every other open-minded person doubt the "vaccines are 99.99% safe narrative at least a little bit!
This person has drunk up so much of the vaccine koolaid that they could have 5 family members die from the vaccine and still deny it was a factor. I also read many of the accounts in the VAERS database and believe most are attributable to getting the vaccine.
My son is in the VAERS database as his 2nd jab gave him a heart attack as it has many young and healthy men.
This person has drunk up so much of the vaccine koolaid that they could have 5 family members die from the vaccine and still deny it was a factor. I also read many of the accounts in the VAERS database and believe most are attributable to getting the vaccine.
My son is in the VAERS database as his 2nd jab gave him a heart attack as it has many young and healthy men.
And VAERS is grossly underreported based on all available evidence. I'm sorry for what happened to your son. No healthy young person should take these things yet. Wait and see is the best course of action.
well, I just found out 2 days ago that my future in-laws will be getting covid test, AGAIN.
My future mil (82 years old) found her neighbor (97 year old) lying on the floor unconscious. Turned out, he (the neighbor) has covid and is receiving treatment at the Covid ward in hospital. My future inlaws are feeling fine and they will be getting the test tomorrow.
Everybody is fully vaccinated. If the 97 made it, it would be a miracle.
The neighbor's daughter and her husband (both in their 70s) are tested positive. Both have no symptoms. So I guess the vaccination works for them.
Could be, who knows. I know several people who tested positive and had no symptoms. As was said early on in the pandemic most people who are covid positive do not have any symptoms.
Their talking point was, but they can transmit it that is why it is so dangerous.
Odd that doesn't seem to be an issue now with those who are vaccinated. They are still telling us it is the unvaccinated who are spreading it, even the hundreds of thousands who have already had it and have antibodies.
This person has drunk up so much of the vaccine koolaid that they could have 5 family members die from the vaccine and still deny it was a factor. I also read many of the accounts in the VAERS database and believe most are attributable to getting the vaccine.
My son is in the VAERS database as his 2nd jab gave him a heart attack as it has many young and healthy men.
That must have been very scary for your son andyour family. Hope he is doing better.
There are many cases of seemingly young and healthy men having heart attacks before the COVID vaccine.
This is not a new phenomenal.
https://www.thenewsminute.com/articl...ors-say-154952
“Being young does not mean one is immune to heart attacks,” says Dr Sandesh Prabhu, Consultant–Cardiology & Electrophysiology, Manipal Hospitals, Whitefield in Bengaluru. “We are seeing more youngsters coming in and presenting with cardiac issues these days-- before sons used to bring in fathers who were having heart attacks, now we see parents bringing their sons in.”
And that is the problem with VAERS. While you feel or think it might have been the second jab (why the second and not the first?_.....
VAERS themselves repeatedly remind people that reports may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information.
Given the political culture of this particular vaccine, the reporting of the COVID vaccine is particularly subjected to bias.
If there is an uptick in heart attacks during 2021 that correlates with the vaccine distribution, we might be able to draw some conclusion, but until then VAERS cannot be used as proof positive of side effects.
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