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"I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out."
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Originally Posted by newtovenice
Over the years? Hundreds. NOT THAT IT MATTERS!!!!!
These days, I can tell a good teacher by one simple statement they offer up: "If I had kids now, I would homeschool them."
Multiple teachers >40 years old have told me that. THEY don't even believe that what they are doing is worthwhile. I understand from your posts that accepting whatever drivel government gives us is what we should do. Even if it's garbage. Carry on with the blind and relenting obedience and celebration of government. Who cares if kids can't read.
Public school teachers are the professional demographic with the most children attending private school. We all get that.
That doesn't equate to "public school teachers don't care if your child can read".
I will admit that part of my partiality toward public school is I live in an EXCELLENT school district, that challenged my kids and the teachers shepherded them to success. Very caring, very dedicated teachers, caring, dedicated principals, a caring, dedicated school board. So there's that.
I do realize that the media (and forums like this one) seem to fall all over themselves trying to ferret out and highlight examples of bad public schools.
Public school teachers are the professional demographic with the most children attending private school. We all get that.
That doesn't equate to "public school teachers don't care if your child can read".
I will admit that part of my partiality toward public school is I live in an EXCELLENT school district, that challenged my kids and the teachers shepherded them to success. Very caring, very dedicated teachers, caring, dedicated principals, a caring, dedicated school board. So there's that.
I do realize that the media (and forums like this one) seem to fall all over themselves trying to ferret out and highlight examples of bad public schools.
How many years ago was this?
Are you basing all of your posts supporting the public/private school system based on what schools were like 30 - 40 years ago?
I’m tired of all this bashing of college students, book banning and trashing the liberal arts. As a retired school librarian it saddens me that it might just keep getting worse. I once sported a bumper sticker. “We still read”. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...h=2104520a4c90
Here is the link to the underlying study of 12,330 people aged 16-74 between 2012-2017 in all 3141 counties and DC. It relied on small area estimation models to arrive at conclusions.
As you are probably aware, the US Navy contracted with J. Peter Kincaid in the early 70’s to standardize reading levels and correspond them to grade levels. This led to the US military to change the presentation of their training materials to appeal to the greatest audience of enlisted people. The outcome became known as the Flesch- Kincaid Readability test.
News and media have long targeted their audiences by literacy level. The Reader’s Digest was, for many decades, the best selling consumer magazine in the US This was no accident because it appealed to the lowest literacy level in terms of # words in a sentence and # syllables per word because long words/ sentences are harder to read. It also purposely kept articles very short to hold reader’s attention span.
Now days, it too often seems as though many don’t read beyond a headline and tend to be more attracted to sensational headlines. News that used to be buried on page 5 of local news, may now become an international sensation, in a blink of an eye. Readers don’t often seem to distinguish between raw numbers and rates.
I struggle with small samplings of the public to determine anything.
No it doesn't. A high SAT accompanied by a low history of academic performance is the death nell.
If you've got BOTH high SAT and history of academic success, yes, that's a good indicator that the student will be successful in college.
So you are now arguing that colleges should keep the SAT.
The SAT is factually the #1 predictor of college success. Statistics deniers that don't get math can hyperfocus on the exceptions, but that is for silly people pushing an agenda that they can't do in reality.
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