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The movement away from standardized testing is many fold.
First, standardized testing within schools forces "teaching to the test", which gives students the skills to look through a few answers and by process of elimination, arrive at what is likely the correct answer. That's a skill NO ONE needs to have. You won't need that skill in life, ever. So it's a huge waste of time, and doesn't encourage critical thinking, and it stresses children out.
Colleges are moving from standardized testing for admissions because they're finding scoring well on a standardized test isn't the best indication of success in college. Guess what IS the best indicator of success in college? You got it. Success in high school. Students who score very high on SATs but perform poorly in the high school classroom are the ones who will limp through their first semester and end up flunking out in their second semester.
Colleges are moving away from standardized testing because they are woke and they can't build equity while using them.
The SAT is highly correlated with College GPA, College graduation, career success, and IQ. Those who deny this don't understand basic statistics.
The SAT is more correlated to future success than HS GPA or HS extracurricular activities.
Schools are incentivized to move away from standardized testing, because it shows their ineffectiveness and sins against equity. Easier to kill a test than do a more rigorous job.
You think teaching to the test is happening to a significant degree in struggling schools? Why are there so many inner-city schools where test scores all are awful. Some literally no kid proficient in math or reading. Zero kids proficient at some schools. They are failing these kids. Stop enabling this by pretending the schools are stuck teaching to some test and that is detrimental to the kids. "Not teaching to the test" is an excuse by failing schools to continue to fail. These tests are simply and if kids were up to snuff they'd do okay on them.
The left is killing standardized testing in the name of equity. This covers up failing schools and enables idiocracy and the dumbing down of our society.
Is this the end for standardized testing in Florida?
Governor Ron DeSantis is considering implementing plans to end standardized testing for students across Florida. These plans would specifically remove the Florida Standards Assessment (FSA) tests that have been in place since 1971.
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Colleges are moving away from standardized testing because they are woke and they can't build equity while using them.
The SAT is highly correlated with College GPA, College graduation, career success, and IQ. Those who deny this don't understand basic statistics.
The SAT is more correlated to future success than HS GPA or HS extracurricular activities.
Schools are incentivized to move away from standardized testing, because it shows their ineffectiveness and sins against equity. Easier to kill a test than do a more rigorous job.
I have a close family member who works in admissions at a major Texas university.
After looking at the SAT for decades, they've determined that students who flunk out, and don't leave their dorm rooms, and drop classes so they fall below full time status, who linger and don't graduate, typically have SAT scores that are higher than expected, for that outcome.
Because SAT isn't an indicator of success, taken in the absence of other factors like high school performance.
Especially a caution is the student who scores very well on the SAT but is in the bottom quartile of their class. Something colleges used to think was fine - they set an SAT bar, and if you achieve that bar you are admitted regardless of high school performance.
I've been to NASA several times, and would be extremely surprised, considering that engineers are very often liberal, that a partisan sign like that hangs in a public room in a federal agency.
You sure about this?
know a guy, that we intro as thus: " he has launched more tonnage than any man alive......and his wife has shot it down" too much more and I end up doxxing him. anyone in the biz knows EXACTLY who he/they are. so yes. and no, 'rocket scientists' are not liberal for the simple fact that engines do not have feelings. hang out with them more. they are not politically driven.
Colleges are moving from standardized testing for admissions because they're finding scoring well on a standardized test isn't the best indication of success in college.
The ONLY reason standardized tests are being removed is that certain demographics in the United States tend to score very low on them in spite of everything that has been tried over the last 60 years.
I think that's "decolonize your bookshelf", not library.
And librarians are VERY torn about that movement, and tend to favor informing the public about selections that have some objectionable content, rather than removing them.
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The ONLY reason standardized tests are being removed is that certain demographics in the United States tend to score very low on them in spite of everything that has been tried over the last 60 years.
That's not true that it's the only reason.
Talk to a college admissions counselor, and see what they tell you about the use of SATs as an indicator of success in the absence of other indicators of success.
The movement away from standardized testing is many fold.
First, standardized testing within schools forces "teaching to the test", which gives students the skills to look through a few answers and by process of elimination, arrive at what is likely the correct answer. That's a skill NO ONE needs to have. You won't need that skill in life, ever. So it's a huge waste of time, and doesn't encourage critical thinking, and it stresses children out. Waste of time that could be used to create scientific models, read good literature, write creatively, etc.
Colleges are moving from standardized testing for admissions because they're finding scoring well on a standardized test isn't the best indication of success in college. Guess what IS the best indicator of success in college? Of course. Success in high school. Students who score very high on SATs but perform poorly in the high school classroom are the ones who will limp through their first semester and end up flunking out in their second semester.
Are you sure that's an unnecessary skill? Let me give an example...
A person has a multiple choice between:
A) Paying off high-interest debt as quickly as possible
B) Making only the minimum payment each time on high-interest debt
C) Defaulting on the debt and trashing their credit rating
The movement away from standardized testing is many fold.
First, standardized testing within schools forces "teaching to the test", which gives students the skills to look through a few answers and by process of elimination, arrive at what is likely the correct answer. That's a skill NO ONE needs to have. You won't need that skill in life, ever. So it's a huge waste of time, and doesn't encourage critical thinking, and it stresses children out. Waste of time that could be used to create scientific models, read good literature, write creatively, etc.
Colleges are moving from standardized testing for admissions because they're finding scoring well on a standardized test isn't the best indication of success in college. Guess what IS the best indicator of success in college? Of course. Success in high school. Students who score very high on SATs but perform poorly in the high school classroom are the ones who will limp through their first semester and end up flunking out in their second semester.
I absolutely 100% disagree with that, and here's why...
Sad but common story, this one from Detroit. A High School valedictorian, despite earning a stellar GPA her entire academic career, is struggling in remedial algebra at Michigan State, a class she'll need to pass to take the even higher-level math classes required for the degree she's pursuing in Biomedical Laboratory Science.
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