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I'm not going to tell you why I'm in the schools, and no, I don't have children right now in the public school system.
But I'm in there. And also, I'm very interested in and knowledgable about the school board. And keep up with the status of the local school's state rating.
I assumed you worked for the teachers union in some capacity. As that is how your posts and your viewpoints are coming across.
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The SAT is probably the single best predictor of college and life success. Your high school GPA is not a better predictor than the SAT. You sound like you're just being a contrarian. Why do you hate the SAT so much? Got a bad score?
Your high school class rank, actually, is the best indicator of all in college success.
But B students rule the world. A students are good in school, not necessarily good at self-directed achievement.
I don't hate the SAT, actually, and I do surprisingly well at standardized tests. I've always tested (on multiple choice tests) higher than my actual functioning knowledge.
I was always a B student, because I didn't work all that hard, and was always at the top in standardized computer graded tests. Early on, it was the Iowa test, and then in later years the SAT.
I'm speaking from actual experience, that doing well on an SAT is no indicator that you'll do well in college. And due to my laziness and lack of discipline at first, yes, I spent a semester on scholastic probation although my SAT wouldn't indicate that would happen - if you believed the SAT an indicator in future success.
agree and disagree, around the time of the 'singularity' in education in the id 90s, they also changed the SAT structure - significantly to account for 'culture'
used to be, as they say "when I was a kid...." your SAT score tracked with your HS performance. If a student was better'n average in 'college prep' (what we call stem today) then the SAT tracked with scores 1150-1200 and up. if not, then 1000 was a challenge. today it is quite easy to have a 1400 score and be functionally illiterate (functionally illiterate is not closely linked to he OP subject line)
Also, part of the singularity was to equalize college admissions. And this was done via the expansion of liberal arts. Most BAs, are just certificate programs. Its not the same. and here we are. sow->reap
In the mid 90s (1996, IIRC) one of the reasons the SAT was 'recalibrated' was that the mean had dropped by 100 points, and a change was made to compensate for that.
If comparing anyone who took the SAT before that (including me...I took it in the 1970s) to anyone who took it 1996 +, you'd need to add at least the 100 points from that particular recalibration (it's a point that boomers in my family use to tease/needle millennials in my family).
Your high school class rank, actually, is the best indicator of all in college success.
Would that be true regardless of what high school you went to?
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I'm speaking from actual experience, that doing well on an SAT is no indicator that you'll do well in college. And due to my laziness and lack of discipline at first, yes, I spent a semester on scholastic probation although my SAT wouldn't indicate that would happen - if you believed the SAT an indicator in future success.
You think you're lazier than me? I'm the king of laziness and squandering my potential. Why do you think I'm here?
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Would that be true regardless of what high school you went to?
You think you're lazier than me? I'm the king of laziness and squandering my potential. Why do you think I'm here?
Ha ha touché.
And there is a problem, I agree, with comparing class rank among excellent schools and class rank among very poor ones.
That's been a raging debate in Texas with the top 10% rule. The top 10% of a high performing school are all excellent students, where the top 10% of a low performing school are often not college material. Requiring state colleges to accept all students in the top 10% of their public high schools has led to problems.
It's become far easier to watch Netflix at night than read a book. Of course, there was a time where reading was one of the few ways to pass the time. Nowadays, not so much. I will say, the people I know who are avid readers are more intelligent and have a greater vocabulary than those who don't. I attribute that to being exposed to more information and distinguished language.
Alex Trebek once pointed out when a person without a degree won Final Jeopardy that it's not your level of education that makes you successful on the show. It's how much you read.
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