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Since when did the left make such a big stink of stopping special status for huge corporations? When they decided they didn’t like parents telling them to leave their kids alone.
This statement is what everyone knows to be true, that the legislative action is in retaliation against TWDC. That is what makes the legislative action unconstitutional and every Conservative should be happy such protections exist.
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Talking heads won't let the people in on the secret that this is a deal that probably benefits all parties. Surrounding counties don't have to deal with Disney-related infrastructure and services. They may stand to collect a little more tax money, but at a huge cost in services and infrastructure projects. The startup cost and logistics of taking on so much territory would probably cripple them. RCID and by extension Disney can reinvest in its own infrastructure, and is empowered to maintain and develop at a pace commensurate with its customer service goals, without the typical bureaucratic red tape. It doesn't mean they're allowed to cut corners or ignore standing regulation, but they can process these issues with the efficiency that the operation demands.
This was the entire purpose for which Reedy Creek Improvement District was created. It was created as incentive for TWDC to develop the property easier and more efficiently.
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There is a reason you do not see Disney execs cheering right now. The district will be replaced and Disney will be paying as much or more than they were before, they just won't be calling the shots on how the money is spent.
No Disney won't, that is the point. Disney will be paying a lot less than they do currently.
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When RCID dissolves it will no longer be an independent tax district and the MSTU can be imposed.
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Your quote said that a MSTU couldn't be imposed because RCID is an independent tax district. That's the current state. This bill changes that therefore the alleged reasons why an MSTU cannot be currently imposed will not apply when RCID is dissolved.
You would do well to go read Florida Statute Ssection 125.01. Municipal Service Taxing Units (MSTU) cannot be created without the consent of the landowners effected. If Reedy Creek goes away, Orange and Osceola counties cannot put in an MTSU unless Disney approves.
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People need to realize that the one being repeatedly quoted, Scott Randolph, is a hyper partisan dem.
And Fine is a hyper partisan Republican, who should have read and understood the implications of the bill before he ran it through the legislature. He has his own intemperate tweets.
Fine, who has only lived in FL since 2006, whereas Disney has been there since 1965, admitted in his tweet that the legislative actions against TWDC were retaliatory and then told a lie that Disney was "exempt from laws faced by regular Floridians", which they are not.
Fine is now backpedaling because he didn't understand the full ramifications of his petulance.
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This does not change the size of government.
Actually it does. The counties of Orange and Osceola will have to hire several hundred more people to takeover the duties that RCID previously provided, but I am not sure that was the intent of the person talking about "small government".
Having a state government act in a retaliatory manner against a private company is not something Conservatives or libertarians should be cheering.
That was according to a republican state senator that voted for the bill and of course you left out the rest of that article. MTSU's are going to pick up the burden of DIsney's debt, do tell how that works because it's totally lacking in explanation. Where exactly are these MTSU's going to get the funding to cover the debt and why wasn't this addressed in the bill.
The aren't going to dissolve the district, they can't legally dissolve the district and Reedy District is in compliance. Thinking otherwise is just some fantasy for DeSantis supporters that think he has some supernatural power and can change this agreement because he doesn't like their political stance.
Actually it does. The counties of Orange and Osceola will have to hire several hundred more people to takeover the duties that RCID previously provided, but I am not sure that was the intent of the person talking about "small government".
Having a state government act in a retaliatory manner against a private company is not something Conservatives or libertarians should be cheering.
Ok, I overlooked that. However this will be paid for through an increase on tax on Disney when we get to re-zone their land appropriately.
And no. Businesses get special treatment due to politicians, and this special treatment can be revoked. If we lived in some libertarian ideal, government wouldn’t be giving some businesses breaks and not others. Disney got their special district through bribing politicians and also being a desirable guest in Florida at the time (1960s). Disney today has outlived that goodwill.
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Ok, I overlooked that. However this will be paid for through an increase on tax on Disney when we get to re-zone their land appropriately.
And no. Businesses get special treatment due to politicians, and this special treatment can be revoked. If we lived in some libertarian ideal, government wouldn’t be giving some businesses breaks and not others. Disney got their special district through bribing politicians and also being a desirable guest in Florida at the time (1960s). Disney today has outlived that goodwill.
What are they going to re-zone the property has already been zoned & taxed by the counties that it occupies. Will swamp now become prime real estate, I doubt it because WDC just challenged their appraised taxes in court and won receiving a rebate.
Yes they must have bribed those elected officials because no GOP member would ever want to support a development opportunity that has ultimately lead to the largest state employer and the largest taxpayer.
If Reedy Creek was abusing its authority, not maintaining what it is responsible for, not complying with state regulations and requirements then by all means it should be eliminated. But they are good stewards of what they are responsible for and comply with all regulations, as many post they could be a model of efficiency for others to follow. If the state had said that the agreement will be reviewed to ensure it is compliance with current state laws that would be fine, but this is a spiteful response from a Governor who believes freedom of speech only applies to him. Makes me wonder if he will be returning the $100k he received from Disney towards his campaign.
The Democrats are ignoring that once Reedy Creek is dissolved it can be taxed by deep blue Orange County with MTSUs. Let's see what they choose to do.
The bill dissolves Reedy Creek June 1, 2023, if MTSU's are going to be formed why aren't the two counties working on these proposals. You never answered the question, why wasn't this mentioned in the bill.
Just admit that this is noting but a vindictive reaction to Disney's vocal objection to DeSantis law and they could care less if this hurts taxpayers along with Disney.
Yes, it will. The County Govt. will have to enlarge to handle the work being done by Disney. Taxes will have to go up to support all the new employees. All infrastructure will now become the problem for the county.
The Fla. GOP has just forgot what they have been known for.
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