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Old 04-25-2022, 05:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
What are they going to re-zone the property has already been zoned
Because it's a self governing district, Disney gets to pick how their property is zoned. They obviously chose the configuration where they'd pay the least tax possible. And any debt that is transferred to the county will be paid for by increasing municipal service taxing units on Disney, and cutting into their revenue even more.

 
Old 04-25-2022, 06:32 AM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Originally Posted by Eyebee Teepee View Post
Let me just say that I am shocked to watch liberals suspend reality and support less-regulated "private" entities because "well, they've been good stewards of the land so far".
Maybe because your definition of a liberal is anyone who doesn't agree with Far Rights ideology and worship fearless leader in exile. If the adult approach had stated "we need to re-evaluate this agreement to ensure compliance with current state law" that would be acceptable, not a spiteful Governor saying I'll show them because he doesn't like what they said.

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Old 04-25-2022, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by beachGecko View Post
Because it's a self governing district, Disney gets to pick how their property is zoned. They obviously chose the configuration where they'd pay the least tax possible. And any debt that is transferred to the county will be paid for by increasing municipal service taxing units on Disney, and cutting into their revenue even more.
That's a nice dream but the counties they are in have already zoned and been collecting the taxes for quite a few decades. You can't rezone land for development that can never be developed because it is not accessible to the public market.

Try reading Florida Statues 125.0101
" Such services shall be funded as agreed upon between the county and the municipality or special district. This section shall not be construed to authorize the county to impose any service charge or special assessment or to levy any tax within the municipality or special district, nor shall this section be construed to authorize the creation of a municipal service taxing unit within such area.."
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter View Post
You would do well to go read Florida Statute Ssection 125.01. Municipal Service Taxing Units (MSTU) cannot be created without the consent of the landowners effected. If Reedy Creek goes away, Orange and Osceola counties cannot put in an MTSU unless Disney approves.

Please cite the specific paragraph that requires approval of landowners. (Don't say 3y). You're a fool if you think a county is required to provide services and it is purely at the whim of those receiving the services if they wish to pay for them or not. No MSTU, no services.
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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Yes, it will. The County Govt. will have to enlarge to handle the work being done by Disney. Taxes will have to go up to support all the new employees. All infrastructure will now become the problem for the county.

The Fla. GOP has just forgot what they have been known for.

Or just not do the work being done by Disney.
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
That's a nice dream but the counties they are in have already zoned and been collecting the taxes for quite a few decades. You can't rezone land for development that can never be developed because it is not accessible to the public market.

Try reading Florida Statues 125.0101
" Such services shall be funded as agreed upon between the county and the municipality or special district. This section shall not be construed to authorize the county to impose any service charge or special assessment or to levy any tax within the municipality or special district, nor shall this section be construed to authorize the creation of a municipal service taxing unit within such area.."

Can you cite the specific clause? I find no such words in the statute.
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:26 AM
 
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DeSantis is a phony. He left the 570 million tax credit to Disney untouched.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-desantis-feud
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
That's a nice dream but the counties they are in have already zoned and been collecting the taxes for quite a few decades. You can't rezone land for development that can never be developed because it is not accessible to the public market.

Try reading Florida Statues 125.0101
" Such services shall be funded as agreed upon between the county and the municipality or special district. This section shall not be construed to authorize the county to impose any service charge or special assessment or to levy any tax within the municipality or special district, nor shall this section be construed to authorize the creation of a municipal service taxing unit within such area.."
They are zoned according to a special district that will cease to exist in 2023. Once it ceases to exist, the county will re-zone Disney.
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:47 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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DeSantis is a phony. He left the 570 million tax credit to Disney untouched.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-desantis-feud
Umm, that's because these tax incentives aren't for Disney. They are for ANY corporation that meets the requirements.

I'm starting to think that you don't like DeSantis.


Here, your article explains it....

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"DeSantis hasn’t asked the legislature to repeal the tax credits because “it’s not a carve-out for a specific corporation.” Any company can apply for the incentives, she said, and “the bigger investments will qualify for the bigger tax credits.”
 
Old 04-25-2022, 07:50 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Independentthinking83 View Post
DeSantis is a phony. He left the 570 million tax credit to Disney untouched.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-desantis-feud
You clearly did not read the article, Mr. "IndependentThinking"...
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Originally Posted by Bloomberg
Christina Pushaw, a spokesperson for the governor, said DeSantis hasn’t asked the legislature to repeal the tax credits because “it’s not a carve-out for a specific corporation.” Any company can apply for the incentives, she said, and “the bigger investments will qualify for the bigger tax credits.”
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