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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 194 39.43%
No 251 51.02%
Unsure 47 9.55%
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Old 01-08-2023, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Putin and 9 11.


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Old 01-08-2023, 05:49 AM
 
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Putin's Christmas "ceasefire" didn't amount to much.

Reports of bombings and attacks all over the place.
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Old 01-08-2023, 06:08 AM
 
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You can keep spouting ignorant propaganda all you want...that will not ever make "Putin Started It" factual.
Correct. Propaganda does not make anything factual. Actions do. Putin was the person who gave the command to roll troops across the border, and that action is what makes "Putin Started It" (sic) factual.

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I'm Native U.S born...a Veteran, even.
I do not "despise the U.S.". Just what a bunch of the high level Government Officials/Leaders have done in the past, and presently.
Who wouldn't despise those things? Genocide of the Native People, Slavery, etc...that's as rotten as it gets.
Don't care. None of this is relevant to the Russia-Ukraine war.

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It is the evil-minded that messes with someone for decades, assembles a 300,000 man Military Force in his face...then rejects all his attempts at a Peaceful Resolution.
Your statement is that Ukraine should not have a national military. Absurd. As sad as it is, every nation of note has, and must have a military. You are trying to state this as if Ukraine did something particularly aggressive by merely having a military, which is absurd.

Putin has not made any attempts at "Peaceful Resolution" (sic). He made ludicrous demands that he/Russia had no right to, invaded a neighboring country, and when his invasion failed, stating that he was annexing 4 provinces and that he would stop fighting if Ukraine rolled over. Nobody believed him then, nobody believes him now.

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Peace should have been chosen. But the U.S./West/NATO loooooooves war...So....
Ukraine can make the decision to surrender if they want. Various countries support Ukraine and its rightful fight for autonomy.

Why do you randomly capitalize things in your posts? In English, proper nouns and titles are capitalized. You have an odd habit of capitalizing in a very weird, incorrect manner.
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Old 01-08-2023, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Not funny gotta be a Pole joke in here...






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoy...HindustanTimes
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:04 AM
 
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Ukraine lost a MIG-29 to friendly fire, but enemy fire can't be ruled out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7UUy-zO7Ow
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:39 AM
 
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Gee where have I heard that before?
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:40 AM
 
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Putin's Christmas "ceasefire" didn't amount to much.

Reports of bombings and attacks all over the place.
Ukraine knew the Russkies are lying sacks of caca which is why they said they weren't going to abide by Russia's "ceasefire". They were on to Russia's trick to lull Ukraine off guard a few days so they could make some big gains.
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Old 01-08-2023, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Sarcasm here? Russian bot - lol
It's a way to demonize enemies. It's necessary in all civil wars to demonize the enemy, just as the author describes in 85 Days. You aren't a real person if you have a varying opinion. Instead you're a "bot."
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Old 01-08-2023, 08:20 AM
 
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Correct. Propaganda does not make anything factual. Actions do. Putin was the person who gave the command to roll troops across the border, and that action is what makes "Putin Started It" (sic) factual.

Don't care. None of this is relevant to the Russia-Ukraine war.

Your statement is that Ukraine should not have a national military. Absurd. As sad as it is, every nation of note has, and must have a military. You are trying to state this as if Ukraine did something particularly aggressive by merely having a military, which is absurd.

Putin has not made any attempts at "Peaceful Resolution" (sic). He made ludicrous demands that he/Russia had no right to, invaded a neighboring country, and when his invasion failed, stating that he was annexing 4 provinces and that he would stop fighting if Ukraine rolled over. Nobody believed him then, nobody believes him now.

Ukraine can make the decision to surrender if they want. Various countries support Ukraine and its rightful fight for autonomy.

Why do you randomly capitalize things in your posts? In English, proper nouns and titles are capitalized. You have an odd habit of capitalizing in a very weird, incorrect manner.
Of course...those with a bias based allergy to facts and history will make false and propaganda based statements & claims.

First...one must know the history:
https://youtu.be/FkLU0vFAUQs

And understand what has occurred:
https://youtu.be/GXOWZnRCc20

Ukraine wasn't just "having a military"...they were amassing them (hundreds of thousands) in a offensive posture, right in Russias face.
Putin tried to circumvent the conflict before it started (even tried after it started) and put forth a Peace Agreement to negotiate.
Those negotiations were completely rebuffed...and Ukraine kept building its force & posture.
Like someone that has others that mean them harm laying for and/or moving on them...Putin/Russia made a defensive, preemptive move. Not a "invasion" but a "Special Military Operation", to address the looming threat.
Putin/Russia then presented another negotiated Peace Agreement...to prevent further conflict. The West/NATO nixed it (even sent Boris Johnson to personally shun it)...and opted for full-blown war.
So...that's what we have.
The Ukraine is, and has been, known as the most corrupt Country in all of Europe. It has even been a source of fraudulent/scammed money for the current U S. President and other high level government officials...through their family members.
This has these officials fully compromised...as this has been a big issue as of late.
But, not to be deterred...they even used the war aid efforts for further corrupt scamming. With the Ukraine "investing" aid money in the now defunct crypto currency company FTX...and then tens of millions of dollars in "donations" from the criminal head of the company, Sam Bankman-Fried, was given to those politicians.
Now that the U.S. House of Representatives has switched control...hopefully all this will be fully exposed.
I'm sure it is a 1000X worse than can even be imagined.

As far as you not knowing why I "capitalize things in my posts".
This is just indicative of how clueless you are, of even things that are common knowledge to children.
In written digital messages...capitalization is done as a emphasis...similar to raising the volume & tone of your voice while speaking.
Something tells me you actually did know that...but, like many, being your usual miserable self.
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Old 01-08-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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It's a way to demonize enemies. It's necessary in all civil wars to demonize the enemy, just as the author describes in 85 Days. You aren't a real person if you have a varying opinion. Instead you're a "bot."
Yep that was sarcasm. The clowns on this thread are past believing anything they aren't force fed by the media. To think it was a good idea to poke the Bear and start a fight in his own backyard. If you were suicidal you couldn't have planned your own demise better.
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