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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 190 39.42%
No 246 51.04%
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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yeah, right...at the expense of a 40 mile long convoy of worthless tanks and trucks stuck in the mud that was relentlessly picked off by 30 members of Ukrainian special forces and drone operators on quad bikes..some feint..lol..keep up the good work though..
Just like they fled Snake Island after they kept getting bombed to sh*t and then claimed that it was a "gesture of goodwill". Then there's the Moskva, which is currently conducting a special underwater operation in the Black Sea.
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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Anyway, I am reading a long article with lots of interesting details our media never mention, like this excerpt on Crimea and the Budapest Memorandum, which contradict the Western narrative:




https://geopolitiekincontext.wordpre...g-in-oekraine/
It is in Dutch, let Google translate it for you, like I did above...


As I said, it is a long document, I will read the rest tomorrow and post interesting quotes...
This mixes up the idea of Crimean independence with the annexation of Crimea by Russia.

They are not equivalent.

How is annexation independence?
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Just like they fled Snake Island after they kept getting bombed to sh*t and then claimed that it was a "gesture of goodwill". Then there's the Moskva, which is currently conducting a special underwater operation in the Black Sea.
yes, ya gotta admit..the Ukes are the ones pulling off spectacular 'special military operations'...unlike what Russia is claiming it's doing..
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Old 08-11-2022, 07:46 PM
 
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yes, ya gotta admit..the Ukes are the ones pulling off spectacular 'special military operations'...unlike what Russia is claiming it's doing..
Ukrainian victory is just around the corner then. Spectacular victories that will push the Russians out of Ukraine and Donbas. The Russians will hand back Crimea on a silver platter and that semi-tropical beach resort will be filled with Ukrainians not Russians. What a concept!
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Old 08-11-2022, 09:46 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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All media outlets who do not obviously and consistently support only Russia are now considered "Western Media".

You know ... Like Al-Jazeera.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:24 PM
 
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All media outlets who do not obviously and consistently support only Russia are now considered "Western Media".

You know ... Like Al-Jazeera.
Al-Jazeera is not pro West at all. They are based in the Middle East somewhere. I haven't watched any major news outlets for weeks. It's more fun to watch the smaller guys.

A lot of bad news for Russia. 300km range ATACMS are believed to have been used in the special operation on the Russian airbase in Crimea.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbQKU2Asjx8
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Old 08-11-2022, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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yes, ya gotta admit..the Ukes are the ones pulling off spectacular 'special military operations'...unlike what Russia is claiming it's doing..
Well, to be fair the russians are there to fight the nazis. And to their credit there are no nazis in Ukraine. The special forces anti dragon battalion has also managed to keep all flying dragons at bay.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Ukrainian victory is just around the corner then. Spectacular victories that will push the Russians out of Ukraine and Donbas. The Russians will hand back Crimea on a silver platter and that semi-tropical beach resort will be filled with Ukrainians not Russians. What a concept!

no, it won't be quite that easy or fast but it is the goal..the Russian bear will die..

also, I wonder if the ISW site got hacked?..when I try to go there my computer says 'unsafe site' ...
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Old 08-12-2022, 04:13 AM
 
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no, it won't be quite that easy or fast but it is the goal..the Russian bear will die..

also, I wonder if the ISW site got hacked?..when I try to go there my computer says 'unsafe site' ...
Tried going to the ISW site and I also get the same problem.
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Old 08-12-2022, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Al-Jazeera is not pro West at all. They are based in the Middle East somewhere. I haven't watched any major news outlets for weeks. It's more fun to watch the smaller guys.

A lot of bad news for Russia. 300km range ATACMS are believed to have been used in the special operation on the Russian airbase in Crimea.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbQKU2Asjx8
Now that battlefield damage assessment is being crowd sourced others are coming to another theory. Going back to my initial thought that it sounded like a SAS raid on the Luftwaffe in North Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJuz8qO4sJs

The comments section is interesting, former artillerymen saying that is just how it would look from their missiles with others saying no the facts support a special forces raid.
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