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Great interview with German President, Frank-Walter Steinmeier.
Frank-Walter Steinmeier: A ceasefire would mean we condone the injustice that has been done to Ukraine. It also means Russia gets to keep the occupied lands.
In the beginning the war, Germany was very reluctant to help Ukraine. Given their history and reliance on Russian oil and gas, it was not surprising. But that changed. Germany went from sending helmets to sending howitzers and anti-missile defense systems. Now that they are not being held hostage by Russian oil and gas anymore, I can see Germany taking a more active role in helping Ukraine.
We always clean up Europe's problems when war threatens in the region. Always reluctantly and late but in the end it's the same. Left to their own devices they are feckless, tribal and weak. Lately they've had the Russian gas needle in their arm and most countries have been behind on their NATO commitments for years and years. Their economies are sluggish and they've become a collection of majority have-nots coasting off of the backs of a few remaining functional contributors. Of course they can't defend a European country on their own against Russia even moribund as it is.
I am ok with the US pumping billions worth of pain into the skull cavities and tank turrets of the Russian military. At the same time I am aware that once again it's the US cleaning up a European mess.
Well, the US LNG needle would had been pretty detrimental to their economies. Nowadays, deadly would be a better word.
Hysteria continues.
Ukraine is huge. It would cover Missouri to the Atlantic and Ohio to Georgia. A few days ago 70 missiles were fired into Ukraine and Ukraine shot down about 50.
And still we hear from these "advanced thinkers" who are so insightful and experienced that they believe Ukraine will be rendered uninhabitable by these missile strikes. The only reason the rest of us can't see it is because we don't have all the resources that this advanced person has..... Oh, yeah.
The vast majority of Ukraine has seen neither Russian missiles nor Russian soldiers.
"Fight to The Last Ukrainian". Maybe Daniel Day Lewis could play the part and he could save Z's daughter...
Monday, Dec 5, ship transportation of Russia oil to Europe will stop. Gas transmission has effectively stopped already.
The Russian economy seemed to stabilize last summer as oil prices surged and Europe stocked up on gas. But now oil has fallen in price and Russian business executives and official Russian statistics report steep drops in oil as well as non-oil tax revenue and retail sales.
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Hysteria continues.
Ukraine is huge. It would cover Missouri to the Atlantic and Ohio to Georgia. A few days ago 70 missiles were fired into Ukraine and Ukraine shot down about 50.
And still we hear from these "advanced thinkers" who are so insightful and experienced that they believe Ukraine will be rendered uninhabitable by these missile strikes. The only reason the rest of us can't see it is because we don't have all the resources that this advanced person has..... Oh, yeah.
The vast majority of Ukraine has seen neither Russian missiles nor Russian soldiers.
"Fight to The Last Ukrainian". Maybe Daniel Day Lewis could play the part and he could save Z's daughter...
Monday, Dec 5, ship transportation of Russia oil to Europe will stop. Gas transmission has effectively stopped already.
The Russian economy seemed to stabilize last summer as oil prices surged and Europe stocked up on gas. But now oil has fallen in price and Russian business executives and official Russian statistics report steep drops in oil as well as non-oil tax revenue and retail sales.
Of course, the missle defense systems that are intercepting the incoming...none of those are from the Ukraine.
In fact...Russia destroyed all of Ukraines' military arsenal and capacity. Nothing they are bringing to bear against Russia was supplied by them.
Thus...those claiming that "Russia is losing to the Ukraine" are telling a bogus tale.
It's like two people that are to race their cars against each other...and they are racing for Title....first to win 5 rounds.
Your car is named Russia...his is named Ukraine.
You beat him easily the first race.
But when you line up against him the next time, he is driving a different car supplied by a associate (but he still calls it "Ukraine")...it is much more powerful...and you barely beat him.
The next time you line up, he has another car, twice as powerful...supplied by others, but he still calls it "Ukraine"
Every time you line up, he either has a different, more powerful car that has been supplied by others, or they have placed a more powerful engine in the car...the car his Title represents is gone, and nothing else at all is supplied by your competitor....except he always drives, and always calls the car "Ukraine".
Would it even be legit for your competitor to claim, "My car Ukraine beat that car Russia, and I took his Title papers?
The strange thing is...even with all the help that the Ukraine has received...such that Russia is basically fighting a proxy war against The U S., United Kingdom, Poland, Germany, and many other Countries https://www.statista.com/chart/27278...ne-by-country/
they still have been gravely damaged, and have not been able to expel the Russians.
One of the main reasons that Russia took a aggressive stance is because it did not want a NATO Country on it's border, and Ukraine was looking to join.
Now...Russia is basically fighting NATO, all the military resources they are fighting against are NATO supplied.
I predict that this will frustrate and infuriate Putin to the point that he will feel that going beyond conventional munitions in the fight is justified.
I do not believe that he will accept being defeated and ousted by NATO armaments.
The actions of the U.S., UK, Germany, Poland and others are going to be the cause of the worst possible outcome.
I think people forget who/what Russia is: They were the first in outer space...the Space Station belongs to the Russians...they have the largest nuclear arsenal, that has included the Tsar Bomba, a 58 Megaton warhead.
Our government has even said that "Nuclear Armageddon" is a potential because of this. So....
Go ahead...keep cheerleading these corrupt fools....see where it gets ya.
Putin will not "lose"...he will "win", one way or another.
..your first line of the post is spot on....but..isn't bombing the enemy back into the stone age; e.g., no heat, no lights, no electricity, no water in the middle of winter a good start to demoralizing the enemy, no? you don't think so?...
Not when a people are fighting for their homeland against a hated invader. It didn't work for Germany against England or Russia. It didn't work for us in Vietnam. It didn't work for the USSR in Afghanistan.
Now...Russia is basically fighting NATO, all the military resources they are fighting against are NATO supplied.
True enough... and Russia is losing. NATO's technological superiority has been demonstrated. Luckily, the Biden Administration has been firm about Ukraine not attacking Russia itself. They could really bring the war home to the Russians if they started attacking Belgorod, Kursk... Moscow is only 500 miles away. It would be a mistake, but in a normal war that's what you would do.
Yet Zelensky will still demand billions for "defense" and Dems will demand American taxpayers spend billions to rebuild Ukraine.
Thank you for pointing out how pointless and wasteful US/Western aid has become for a country with ZERO risk of being entirely invaded.
They forget that The Ukraine is the most corrupt Country in all of Europe...for a while now.
This was where they were feeding the Bidens many millions for no-show jobs in fields they have no expertise, where there is a language they don't speak.
Then Zelenskyy refused to expose or investigate when asked. Instead...they impeached the person that asked...for asking!
People are so easily fleeced...such stupid, suckers.
We just found out that of the TENS OF BILLIONS that the U.S. Government is just handing over to the Ukraine (with no accountability) of our tax money...they would then "invest" a bunch of that money in defunct crypto company FTX...FTX would then give (kick-back) over FORTY MILLION in "campaign donations" to the Democrats. Lots of pictures around of the weirdo head of FTX Sam Bankman-Fried hanging out at the White House, and with the Clintons and such.
What was the Ukraine doing "investing" the aid we give them in a crooked crypto currency company?
What a scam!
People just stand there, looking like chumps as they are being ripped-off.
Meanwhile...as the war goes on...the Military-Industrial Complex companies that the government officials are heavily invested in, and that give crazy political donations...are cranking at full capacity.
Hey...there was no war we were fighting in...they needed one, badly.
And they have most people soooooo duped, that when you point out the swindle...they deny it's happening, claim everything is legit and honorable, and vehemently argue that you are wrong!
How can people be such stupid, suckers?!!
True enough... and Russia is losing. NATO's technological superiority has been demonstrated. Luckily, the Biden Administration has been firm about Ukraine not attacking Russia itself. They could really bring the war home to the Russians if they started attacking Belgorod, Kursk... Moscow is only 500 miles away. It would be a mistake, but in a normal war that's what you would do.
The last time Russia invaded the Ukraine, and took Crimea...we did next to nothing. We sent them blankets and MRE rations.
But this time is different....because, since then, the Ukraine (the most corrupt Country in Europe) has fed the Bidens many, many millions (through phony "Energy Company Board Positions") for crazy amounts of "Foreign Aid".
But by saying, "We need to help them!"...most people (who are easily fleeced suckers) actually believe it's reasonable that we send them more money than one and a half times Russia's annual Defense Budget.
Yet...even with that amount of funding...they can't oust the Russians?
Com'on Maaaaan! How can so many people be so cluelessly taken-in and bilked? And they argue for more of the same!
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