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We're all wrong from time to time, heck I've raised my daughters telling them I make mistakes every single day (since we're Christian I also tell them we sin every day).
I'm no anti-vaxxer nor even anti-masker - the royal you "should do what you want". Ergo, I'm anti-mandate.
Me too. I agree with you. And I do think we should admit when we’re w..w…wrong.
But let’s take this thread in particular about school closures having setback children’s education, which is what this is supposed to be about.
Suzy has point blank stated she did not offer an opinion on that at the time, either way.
I not think she is a liar, or that that should have offered posters the excuse to go off and re-litigate the entire vaccine debate, which is not actually what we were discussing.
There were some pretty out there posts at the time. I mean according to some, any of us that have been vaccinated should have haemorrhaged out and died by now.
I also don’t think people here who are doing the told you so dance are as right as they think they are.
There were extremes l over the place. Some people wanted to shut everything down indefinitely, some wanted to do absolutely nothing. Most people had opinions that changed over time as the situation mutated, no pun intended.
But one things for sure, it really exposed just how polar opposite we can be as a people. I’m not sure that as Gen Xers or Boomers we’ve ever had to band together through a global crisis in the same way previous generations did. Or maybe they didn’t either, and war efforts and stuff is just nostalgic PR. Anyway, I digresss.
If J&J put their tagline "DONE" in capital letters, you might be on something. But they didn't. So you don't get to change their intentions. Now if the other vaccines said " Two and you are THROUGH!", then I'm with you.
Yes, the capitalization really changes the meaning of the word, done.
"Johnson & Johnson’s one-shot vaccine is allowing states to rethink distribution, even as health officials and experts worry some will view it as inferior....
As Johnson & Johnson’s production ramps up over the next few months, Dr. Kanter said the shot would allow his state to slash costs for staffing and operations related to the second doses: “The J & J vaccine brings a lot to the table."
That was the meaning ^^. As you see, no one (but you) was discussing "one and done" to mean the last vaccine that you will need for COVID-19.
…. In the end. Try to stay on topic. We were talking about how vaccines were into tally promoted.
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"Johnson & Johnson’s one-shot vaccine is allowing states to rethink distribution, even as health officials and experts worry some will view it as inferior....
As Johnson & Johnson’s production ramps up over the next few months, Dr. Kanter said the shot would allow his state to slash costs for staffing and operations related to the second doses: “The J & J vaccine brings a lot to the table."
That was the meaning ^^. As you see, no one (but you) was discussing "one and done" to mean the last vaccine that you will need for COVID-19.
Nothing you quoted refutes that it was advertised as “one and done”.
This topic is about the damage of schools being closed for so long. Let’s try talking about that.
You have provided no evidence that "one and done" meant no booster would ever be needed.
You are the one that initiated the "one and done" conversation, by the way.
I was responding to a comment. This conversation has gone beyond the point of ridiculousness.
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The U.S. is getting a third vaccine to prevent COVID-19, as the Food and Drug Administration on Saturday cleared a Johnson & Johnson shot that works with just one dose instead of two.
Health experts are anxiously awaiting a one-and-done option to help speed vaccinations, as they race against a virus that already has killed more than 510,000 people in the U.S. and is mutating in increasingly worrisome ways.
This has the benefit of only needing a single dose," Chakrabarti says. "And that's going to be huge. If you're going to essential workers in Brampton, a one-and-done is amazing."
Veillette says a single-dose inoculation can also help protect people like truck drivers or those experiencing homelessness, who may be harder to book for a second dose of another vaccine.
Working class parents work, they cannot teach their kids, they don't have time.
Epic fail by Democrats. These are constituents, you failed them.
But, like it or not, it's a fact that in March 2020 schools and universities were closed in Republican states, too, such as Oklahoma. Republicans shutting down small businesses for 6 weeks or so was also bad.
You have provided no evidence that "one and done" meant no booster would ever be needed.
You are the one that initiated the "one and done" conversation, by the way.
The meaning of Turkey (the country) and turkey (the bird) absolutely change by capitalization. MissTerri thought she had a "smoking gun". IMO, "One and done" is nothing more than marketing. J&J had because it was considered an inferior product. Nothing more, nothing less. Later, it was learned that it was a lot better by having "two and done" like the rest of them. And then later, the mutations == only strong antibodies work. So it was "three and done". lol
We should stay on topic. I wonder if some posters' kidlets suffered with their test scores while their moms were busy arguing on a forum for months?
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Care to share your views on school closings since that i the topic of this thread?
As your links suggest, "Health experts are anxiously awaiting a one-and-done option to help speed vaccinations, as they race against a virus that already has killed more than 510,000 people in the U.S. and is mutating in increasingly worrisome ways."
It's not tough to understand. They are saying, instead of waiting for the 2nd dose, one and done (a.k.a. one shot) "helps speed vaccinations". It's pretty simple.
But, like it or not, it's a fact that in March 2020 schools and universities were closed in Republican states, too, such as Oklahoma. Republicans shutting down small businesses for 6 weeks or so was also bad.
It didn’t seem crazy to close schools in the Spring of 2020 bur it did seem crazy when schools were still closed in the fall, the winter and the following Spring. Some kids missed more than a year of in person schooling. It was pushed by the teacher’s Unions and embraced more in left leaning states, cities and districts and even by our current president.
Kids also missed out on sports, band, theatre and just seeing friends in person. It had a major negative mental health impact. Kids who needed counseling had to do it via zoom.
Kids have also been the last group to have to deal with mask mandates. Adults were allowed to drop it before kids in spite of kids being much lower risk. In some place they are still masking preschoolers.
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Furthermore, here is what was discussed back in march of 2021: 
