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Old 11-10-2022, 02:42 PM
 
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”Border Patrol reports 2.4 million migrant arrests at southwest border this year, the most ever.”

...repeat that over and over....until it sinks in....it's not saying what you think it is
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I am not a fan of leftwing politics. I believe in limited government and American freedoms. However there is a chorus on here from MAGA's and others outside of CD that the left is so dangerous we will end up destroyed or a banana republic or full blown socialist if the left has their way.

However the left is in power in Europe. Scandinavia is very left wing. Canada is also. Yet they are not destroyed. I don't want us to be like them. With socialized health care, high taxes and less freedoms. But if the left did win here we would be more likely like Scandinavia not Venezuela. Norway or Canada has not dismantled capitalism and implemented Socialism. Why would it be any different here?

Does anyone on here really believe the rhetoric of someone like Mark Levin?

'America is being destroyed' by the Democratic Party: Mark Levin

"America is being destroyed. If you want to destroy America, then you vote Democrat because the Democrat Party has been unmasked. Its policies and programs are delusional and destructive, and they are dismantling the most fabulous nation on earth right before your eyes," Levin told viewers.

Levin said the party has banded together in a concerted effort to destroy capitalism and implement a socialist economy.
The Left Wing of the USA is more like the Venezuelan Socialists than Canada or Europe Leftists....I think we would look just like Venezuela or Cuba if the Leftists gained full control here.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:45 PM
 
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You all say you don't want to give up freedom, but according to this, the U.S. ranks 15th in freedom.
Not even in the top 10--

Switzerland — 9.11
New Zealand — 9.01
Denmark — 8.98
Estonia — 8.91
Ireland — 8.90
Finland — 8.85
Canada — 8.85
Australia — 8.84
Sweden — 8.83
Luxembourg — 8.80

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...eest-countries

Those lists are very subjective.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:49 PM
 
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Those lists are very subjective.
Yep, like those "happiness" rankings.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I wish we had Norway's immigration laws.

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/move-to-norway-from-usa/
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:53 PM
 
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The Left Wing of the USA is more like the Venezuelan Socialists than Canada or Europe Leftists....I think we would look just like Venezuela or Cuba if the Leftists gained full control here.
The far left yes. Not all democrats. Most of the stuff passed by them since Biden got in is typical left wing stuff you would see Canada or Europe do. I don't like any of it but a far cry from Cuba.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:54 PM
 
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I am not a fan of leftwing politics. I believe in limited government and American freedoms. However there is a chorus on here from MAGA's and others outside of CD that the left is so dangerous we will end up destroyed or a banana republic or full blown socialist if the left has their way.

However the left is in power in Europe. Scandinavia is very left wing. Canada is also. Yet they are not destroyed. I don't want us to be like them. With socialized health care, high taxes and less freedoms. But if the left did win here we would be more likely like Scandinavia not Venezuela. Norway or Canada has not dismantled capitalism and implemented Socialism. Why would it be any different here?

Does anyone on here really believe the rhetoric of someone like Mark Levin?

'America is being destroyed' by the Democratic Party: Mark Levin

"America is being destroyed. If you want to destroy America, then you vote Democrat because the Democrat Party has been unmasked. Its policies and programs are delusional and destructive, and they are dismantling the most fabulous nation on earth right before your eyes," Levin told viewers.

Levin said the party has banded together in a concerted effort to destroy capitalism and implement a socialist economy.
One major difference is that the left in other countries don’t hate the country they live in. The left in America openly state their disdain for America.

Other than that, you answered you own question when you said that there would be “higher taxes and less freedoms”. People don’t realize that Americans have quite a bit more freedoms than those living in the UK and Europe especially with freedom of speech and guns. Our government also works for us but it is not viewed that way in other countries. The left in America really doesn’t understand the left in other countries.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you believe the left will destroy the country why are Canada and Europe not destroyed?

The Left wants to reduce America from what it has been for the last 50 years, down to the level of Canada and Europe - big-govt oligarchies with the central govts running much more, and screwing much of it up.

Which is the next thing to being destroyed as a country.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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The left in America really doesn’t understand the left in other countries.
I don't know why you think the left here equates itself with the left elsewhere. I've never heard anyone do that.
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Old 11-10-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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If you believe the left will destroy the country why are Canada and Europe not destroyed?

The Left wants to reduce America from what it has been for the last 50 years, down to the level of Canada and Europe - big-govt oligarchies with the central govts running much more, and screwing much of it up.

Which is the next thing to being destroyed as a country.

That is probably correct. But some on here say the left wants to turn us into Cuba. The majority of wealthy people in the US are Democrats. They have a higher comfort level with taxes than Republicans but they don't all their money confiscated by the government. And they are the big democrat donors so what they want counts.
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