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Old 03-23-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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To single out Israel is evil.To cut off our dollars to all others and keep it for ourselves----the right thing to do.
heck yeah!!!!! politicians have been pimping americans far too long to divert the attention of tax payer monies to israel to focus on taxing americans too much
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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Americo Vespucci also discovered America while circumnavigating the globe (before Columbus) but they don't count that either.
Sorry, dude, you got this one wrong. Vespucci's voyages didn't start until 1499 and Columbus' started in 1492.

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...opher_columbus

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Anyone else find it sort of ironic that Jews which were treated so bad by Hitler, treat the Palestinians in similar fashion. They are not doing gas chambers or mass killings like the Germans did, but to be a Palestinian in Israel is a huge disadvantage compared to their Jewish counterpart. They are forced to go through constant military checkpoints, most have been relocated to slums, and they are constantly harassed by police. Its funny how many Americans would never stand for these sort of things on their own soil but when they happen elsewhere it becomes alright all of a sudden. The Palestinians leaders really don't help their people by trying to have suicide bombers but unfortunately that is really their only useful tactic of fighting back.

The USA should support neither side as they both are not interested in maintaining peace and prosperity for everyone. Israel owes a lot to the U.S. because we have supplied them with all their weapons and a strong political backing. Lets not forget about the USS Liberty Incidence where Israel bombed one of our own ships and 34 American soldiers died. If any other nation or group did this, the U.S. would be at war with them but because its Israel we just slap their wrist.

In my opinion since America is currently run on oil, we should make friends with the nations that produce it. Israel does produce oil or really give anything back to the U.S. in return. Its enemies however produce oil and give far more in return resource wise than Israel ever has. Yet we spend tens of billions on Israel? If we are gonna hand out money to countries we should probably give it to the nations that help fuel our economy not the nations that give our religious groups a feeling of comfort.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:41 PM
 
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Israel owes a lot to the U.S. because we have supplied them with all their weapons and a strong political backing. Lets not forget about the USS Liberty Incidence where Israel bombed one of our own ships and 34 American soldiers died. If any other nation or group did this, the U.S. would be at war with them but because its Israel we just slap their wrist.
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wow, first time i heard about this
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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the country is more than 5000 yrsold? well america is older than 1776 then too right? heck no!!!!

israel wasnt an actual country til 1948, and the people that live in it now are from and decend mostly from europe.

i sometimes think you israelis need to getover yourself.. if it werent for america you sease to exist and we really need to say if it wasnt fr the british u definately would notbe a country.a homeland for jews is asracist as it gets

are you an american or an israeli? you cant be both. you can be jewish and be american though because its a religion(not an ethnic group), secular jews are the funniest and most confused.
Who ever said I was an Israeli,not me? 1776 is the year of the constitution but USA existed before then and if you check a book called the "OLD TESTAMENT" which is about 5700 years old if you want to be exact(Torah) then you'd realize that Israel existed then including Jerusalem.A homeland for jews is racist? But you call yourself African American! Aren't you a catholic or protestant american? But your origin comes from Africa,correct?
You can't have it both ways,that's being a hypocrite.My family after Israel settled in Austria,England,and Russia but mostly in Ukraine which I have a soft spot for too. Now if you asked me if Israel attacked the US who would I side with,it would be the US;and yes I am a veteran.Another thing you should know is that you can be an american and an Israeli at the same time(it's known as DUAL CITIZENSHIP) but no it does not apply to me because I am a Jewish American,not a Ukrainian American or Israeli American,Asian American,or European American and just like you are not an African American even though it's commonly used nowadays.If it was true then Egyptians would be African Americans too even if they were white.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Sorry, dude, you got this one wrong. Vespucci's voyages didn't start until 1499 and Columbus' started in 1492.

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...opher_columbus

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
I've read these before and i'll try to find you a link. It's been disputed for years when Vespucci actually did the circumnavigating.The one theory was 2 years prior to Columbus and the ones i've seen more of recently are after. It was named after him but not by him. The other thing that I heard was Vespucci's claim against Columbus,saying he was their first thats why eventually they allowed it to be named after him.I'll fill you in when I can get a solid link.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Returning briefly to the OP, here is a recent hint of why Israel has been successful.:

Israel's Nobel Prize Winners in 2004

Try looking up the nummer of Israelis and Jews who have won Nobel prizes. Then look up the number of Arabs who have done so. Some folks may find this instructive.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:15 PM
 
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Anyone else find it sort of ironic that Jews which were treated so bad by Hitler, treat the Palestinians in similar fashion. They are not doing gas chambers or mass killings like the Germans did,
Clever way of contradicting yourself is one sentence...
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but to be a Palestinian in Israel is a huge disadvantage compared to their Jewish counterpart.
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The Palestinians leaders really don't help their people by trying to have suicide bombers but unfortunately that is really their only useful tactic of fighting back.
Useful for what? bringing more misery?
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In my opinion since America is currently run on oil, we should make friends with the nations that produce it
But... we are friends with the nations that produce oil: Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Qatar, Kuwait, Dubai, Mexico, Canada, to name just a few. The only country that we are in conflict with is Iran. However, you can be Iran's friend. I have no objection if you (and some of your friends) go and live there. Enjoy.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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C'mon, get on the popular bandwagon for defining terrorism:
Terrorism: any act of violence in which Americans or Israelis are killed.
Anybody else DESERVES to be killed. Also, don't forget, this is the way that god wants it to be. You don't want to go against god, do you?
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Returning briefly to the OP, here is a recent hint of why Israel has been successful.:

Israel's Nobel Prize Winners in 2004

Try looking up the nummer of Israelis and Jews who have won Nobel prizes. Then look up the number of Arabs who have done so. Some folks may find this instructive.
You're right. Arabs are an inferior race.

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