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Old 09-08-2009, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Yes, you are correct that private citizens have no standing. In order to have standing you must be able to satisfy the requirement of having been harmed by the actions in some way.

Alan Keyes ran for president on the same ticket as Obama. He also is a black man (before anyone drags out the race card). Mr. Keyes has standing and it is he that has brought the current motion before the Judge.

If you don't know who Alan Keyes is, just google it. He's a brilliant man and an honest politician. Few of them around anymore these days.
He doesn't appear on this case as far as I can see. I think his was one the cases that was dismissed. Keyes clearly can't show harm. While technically he was a presidential candidate he wasn't on the ballot in enough state to win anything.

As I said before, what's the issue before the court?
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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He doesn't appear on this case as far as I can see. I think his was one the cases that was dismissed. Keyes clearly can't show harm. While technically he was a presidential candidate he wasn't on the ballot in enough state to win anything.

As I said before, what's the issue before the court?
Well, here's some beginning grist for your question.

None Dare Call It Treason
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:21 AM
 
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Well, here's some beginning grist for your question.

None Dare Call It Treason
No relevance what-so-ever.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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No relevance what-so-ever.

Oh - It's relevant alright.

Both cases deal with the act of the Supreme Court determining the qualifications of the president.

Bush, as we all know, wasn't qualified to be president - other than that he was "qualified" by the Supreme Court.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:47 AM
 
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Oh - It's relevant alright.

Both cases deal with the act of the Supreme Court determining the qualifications of the president.

Bush, as we all know, wasn't qualified to be president - other than that he was "qualified" by the Supreme Court.
Both parties to that suit had clear standing. IMO the Supreme Court acted unwisely. I think it was a state matter for Florida to decide, but there was no question that either Bush or Gore could bring such an action.

What's the case before the court with the birthers?
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:50 AM
 
Location: west paducah
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Default smith??

r u any kin to justin and brandon smith they have another brother to??
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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Both parties to that suit had clear standing. IMO the Supreme Court acted unwisely. I think it was a state matter for Florida to decide, but there was no question that either Bush or Gore could bring such an action.

What's the case before the court with the birthers?
Abuse of the constitutional process of electing a president.

Every citizen who voted, or didn't vote, has standing.

The "harm" or "damages" suffered each citizen, is the harm suffered the Constitution.

But if the "damages" need to be in the form of at least a $20 controversy, I am guessing there are at least a million people who lost that much betting on McCain to win.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...n/amendment07/

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Old 09-08-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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Abuse of the constitutional process of electing a president.

Every citizen who voted, or didn't vote, has standing.

The "harm" or "damages" suffered each citizen, is the harm suffered the Constitution.
The court was very clear. Individual citizens do not have standing to bring such a suit.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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The court was very clear. Individual citizens do not have standing to bring such a suit.

Check the Las Vegas registrar for names and addresses of people who bet over $20 on McCain to win.

Let's get a jury trial on this.

The Supreme Court has questionable integrity.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:34 AM
 
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The court was very clear. Individual citizens do not have standing to bring such a suit.
Wouldn't you love to see a national class-action suit on this?

Or, should we wait for a "classless" society first?

Call Ketchem, Killum and Dogood for all your legal needs?
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