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Oh yes inadequate insurance policies are a huge problem. LOL.
No the reason premiums have shot through the roof are many fold but inadequate insurance ain't one of them.
One reason for high health care costs is the huge advances in medical technology, and the large price tag it brings with it.
Every small town hospital has their own lab, and can process blood and tissue samples, and many have their own top of the line imaging systems, like a CT or MRI, the same cannot be said for the Canadian health care system. If we want to cut costs, we can start by discouraging the purchase of all these expensive medical devices, which if probably why the democrats want to start taxing them.
Doctors want to cure whatever ailments their patients have, so they proscribe the best medicines, the best lab tests and request the best imaging system scan, so another way to cut costs is to get doctors to stop trying to cure everyone all the time.
One reason for high health care costs is the huge advances in medical technology, and the large price tag it brings with it.
Every small town hospital has their own lab, and can process blood and tissue samples, and many have their own top of the line imaging systems, like a CT or MRI, the same cannot be said for the Canadian health care system. If we want to cut costs, we can start by discourage the purchase of all these expensive medical devices, which if probably why the democrats want to start taxing them.
Doctors want to cure whatever ailments their patients have, so they proscribe the best medicines, the best lab tests and request the best imaging system scan, so another way to cut costs is to get doctors to stop trying to cure everyone all the time.
Without tort reform this will be difficult. With lawyers on the TV all the time encouraging people to sue at the drop of a hat physicians are practicing defensive medicine.
By the way the Republicans are the ones who want to tax the Cadillac health insurance plans which pay for all this technology but the unions won't allow the Dems to go along with it.
I also wouldn't hold Canada up as a paragon, they have cut way too much.
"A provincewide search for an open neonatal intensive care unit bed came up empty, leaving no choice but to send the two pound, four ounce baby to Buffalo."
No the reason premiums have shot through the roof are many fold but inadequate insurance ain't one of them.
Yes, they surely are. Who do you think the hospitals passes the expenses to? Those who have adequate insurance. If you have minimal coverage, the insurance will cover small part of the bill, and the rest of passed onto paying customers.
Interesting that the left is defining the Republicans listening to the will of the people as "crying". There will be a lot of drying on the left in November 2010..
Well, what are they crying about? Practically every measure they have suggested has been added onto the bill, yet all we hear is crying and whining.
I couldn't care less about how many seats Dems lose or win in 2010. Only a true partisan hack prioritizes such things on top.
I lean mostly to the left liberal side, but I am not so sure of the current bill that is going through the Senate. It looks like everyone was paid off to get what they want for their own state just to pass it. There is no doubt we need to reform the current system, so what would be your plan? I am currently one of the people who work full time, but my employer offers no insurance, and I cannot afford private insurance. Still, I feel this bill is flawed, so I thought I would ask the other side for their viewpoint.
Las Vegas Drunk?
And you want to be taken seriously?
Yes, they surely are. Who do you think the hospitals passes the expenses to? Those who have adequate insurance. If you have minimal coverage, the insurance will cover small part of the bill, and the rest of passed onto paying customers.
Mmmm nope it is those with no insurance who contribute the vast majority of the of the payment imbalances plus Medicare dictating below cost reimbursement for many procedures. Inadequate insurance simply isn't a blip on the radar.
Well, what are they crying about? Practically every measure they have suggested has been added onto the bill, yet all we hear is crying and whining.
I couldn't care less about how many seats Dems lose or win in 2010. Only a true partisan hack prioritizes such things on top.
I think the American people object to the cost, to being forced to buy insurance, being forced to pay for abortions etc. I hope the Dems are as misinformed as you are, calling the American people cry babies is a sure fire way to get their votes.
Las Vegas Drunk?
And you want to be taken seriously?
Figures you "lean mostly to the liberal side" .
So far this thread has been great, so let's not ruin it with personal attacks.
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Mmmm nope it is those with no insurance who contribute the vast majority of the of the payment imbalances plus Medicare dictating below cost reimbursement for many procedures. Inadequate insurance simply isn't a blip on the radar.
Thanks for sharing your personal opinon, but it is incorrect. You need to do some fact-checking. There are 25 million underinsured, and the number is skyrocketing The cost is rolled onto the paying customer just like in the case of someone who doesn't have insurance at all. Sorry.
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The number of underinsured U.S. adults—that is, people who have health coverage that does not adequately protect them from high medical expenses—has risen dramatically, a Commonwealth Fund study finds. As of 2007, there were an estimated 25 million underinsured adults in the United States, up 60 percent from 2003. How Many Are Underinsured? Trends Among U.S. Adults, 2003 and 2007 - The Commonwealth Fund
We have Socialized health care now, have for a long time, its just for Seniors. Do you honestly think the Seniors want to give it up ? NO , and , yes I am one of them.
When you take a poll , ask a question , its all how you ask it. If the approach was to just extend Social security to everyone , the debate would be over. THAT is the question that should have been asked. The AARP is in favor of the current approach, and , they don't take a stand unless its favored by their members. Thats good enough for me.
If there was a movement to end the Post office , and give it over to private industry , the effort would be rejected by the public. Same for most Government plans and " give a ways " as many call them. Propel do not want to lose something they already have , one of the reasons this thing is so hard to get passed..... The Unions have some great health care plans, the members do not want to lose.... Take a poll from the prospective of what people want and need and should be entitled too , and the results will be different. It depends so much just where you are sitting , employed, retired , dispute, in foreclosure , in the Union , small business owner, etc.
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