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Old 06-27-2014, 09:38 PM
 
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I would rather my daughter be a lesbian than come within a hundred miles of PUA or the kinds of men who use the language you do. Sorry, but that's my honest position.
Absolutely. If the only males left in the world were the PUA and mens' rights group wackos, no doubt I'd hope my daughter turn out to be a lesbian.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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In your circles, perhaps. You are assuming most men are as miserable, but that is not what I see. I see a minority who are miserable. My male friends, a majority who are 40 and under, are not miserable. They are pretty well off and most are married with young families. Before that life was a big party to be honest.


The rest isn't good enough for who? The state of being good enough is relative, so you have to define good enough for who first. Style and looks today are pretty eclectic and what is attractive to one group or culture or subculture is going to vary.
Elliot Rodger was from LA. Much hostility between the sexes there. I suppose there are some places where most guys don't have many complaints.

I don't believe in much variety in what people find sexually attractive. Signaling sub-culture/background is fairly different from things like basic preferences for female hair and body shape (male hair seems more variable). One only needs to balance attractiveness with the group's rules (like an upper-class woman not broadcasting her big booty in tight jeans).

I need to watch the full 20/20 episode.
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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Elliot Rodger was from LA. Much hostility between the sexes there. I suppose there are some places where most guys don't have many complaints.
I'm in the Cambridge/Boston area. There is no doubt a difference in culture and values between the two regions. I suppose if the standard is barbie doll plastic then there is going to be disappointment. While there are more attractive women than men, most women are not barbie dolls. LA seems to be a place for lost souls.

Beyond that, Elliot's issue had nothing to do with women.
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I don't believe in much variety in what people find sexually attractive. Signaling sub-culture/background is fairly different from things like basic preferences for female hair and body shape (male hair seems more variable). One only needs to balance attractiveness with the group's rules (like an upper-class woman not broadcasting her big booty in tight jeans).

I need to watch the full 20/20 episode.
What you believe is only relevant to you. You appear to be quite unaware of the fact that your worldview is not all encompassing. My husband, for example, prefers bobs for women's hair. He's been asking me to get a bob for years. I've known hippie men to prefer hairy legs/pits and dread locks on women. I've known ravers to prefer pixie cuts on women. The only main stay is hip to waist ratio and health.
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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Beyond that, Elliot's issue had nothing to do with women. .
Very true.
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Old 06-28-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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What you believe is only relevant to you. You appear to be quite unaware of the fact that your worldview is not all encompassing. My husband, for example, prefers bobs for women's hair. He's been asking me to get a bob for years. I've known hippie men to prefer hairy legs/pits and dread locks on women. I've known ravers to prefer pixie cuts on women. The only main stay is hip to waist ratio and health.
I've never heard of such male preferences (although dreadlocks can be long, soooo). But supposing they are true, it's surely a small percentage of men, and an even smaller percentage would reject a woman for being conventionally attractive. A lesson Elliot Rodger should have followed was to not create an image (in his case, suave pretty boy) for an imaginary audience. Unless a woman only wants a very specific type of man whose tastes are reliably peculiar, she should lean toward looking conventionally attractive.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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I'm in the Cambridge/Boston area. There is no doubt a difference in culture and values between the two regions. I suppose if the standard is barbie doll plastic then there is going to be disappointment. While there are more attractive women than men, most women are not barbie dolls. LA seems to be a place for lost souls.

Beyond that, Elliot's issue had nothing to do with women.

What you believe is only relevant to you. You appear to be quite unaware of the fact that your worldview is not all encompassing. My husband, for example, prefers bobs for women's hair. He's been asking me to get a bob for years. I've known hippie men to prefer hairy legs/pits and dread locks on women. I've known ravers to prefer pixie cuts on women. The only main stay is hip to waist ratio and health.
My husband has always preferred me in short hair. The shorter the better. Different strokes for different folks.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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Absolutely. If the only males left in the world were the PUA and mens' rights group wackos, no doubt I'd hope my daughter turn out to be a lesbian.
I'll second that.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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I've never heard of such male preferences (although dreadlocks can be long, soooo). But supposing they are true, it's surely a small percentage of men, and an even smaller percentage would reject a woman for being conventionally attractive. A lesson Elliot Rodger should have followed was to not create an image (in his case, suave pretty boy) for an imaginary audience. Unless a woman only wants a very specific type of man whose tastes are reliably peculiar, she should lean toward looking conventionally attractive.
I'm sure you have not heard of many things. What you don't seem to understand is that it's these guys who are the small percentage. Most people are civilized and get on well enough.

Elliot Roger doesn't appear to have brought anything of value to the human table. He didn't do anything. What do you guys expect?
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:18 PM
 
Location: NW AR
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I'll second that.
My daughter is a lesbian... but that is not why I am on the thread. I do not see ER's passion for the

A) opposite sex
B) same sex

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I just don't see it. I am under the impression if his parents would have set him up with someone famous in Hollywood, he wouldn't have done it. He was pretty creeped out when he heard his sister and boyfriend having sex and his penis was making noises against her vagina. He was also younger. I don't think he liked women but I don't see him with a guy either.

He supposedly wrote about that in his manifesto.. but something is just not right with this. That is why I keep referring to him as an asexual. I think he hated sex and didn't want to deal with it when he got older... but he knew he had to.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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he hated sperm banks as well.
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