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Old 07-24-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Men can’t complain about that. If they do, they get kicked to the curve, seen as complainers, not a gentleman, and so on as we have seen around here and in western culture. Yes, women want a man who can support himself which would mean him not living with his parents, having a car, having a job, making some decent money, etc. A man, generally speaking, can care less if she has a job or not. Men are initially attracted to a woman’s looks. Women are initially attracted to a man’s economic status. Simple as that. Men can get away with not being Mr. Adonis but cannot get away with being cheap and/or broke. Women can get away with being broke and cheap while maybe not the same with looks (then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder).
Can you please explain how a woman would even know what a man's economic status is with regard to initial attraction?? Unless he actually shows her his investment portfolio, there is no way she could know.

Please don't argue that if he drives a flashy car, wears fancy clothes..etc that she can tell. Only a bimbo would assume that. An educated, intelligent woman wouldn't make an assumption about his financial status based on his "stuff".

 
Old 07-24-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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Can you please explain how a woman would even know what a man's economic status is with regard to initial attraction?? Unless he actually shows her his investment portfolio, there is no way she could know.
First dates, conversations, etc. come on, as if you women don’t know these stuff from the start. It’s not like it takes years either. Still, it goes down to the same thing. Generally, and as you women are quick to say, men put priority on looks. Well, women put priority on a man’s economic status. Why deny it and try to go around it?
 
Old 07-24-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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First dates, conversations, etc. come on, as if you women don’t know these stuff from the start. It’s not like it takes years either. Still, it goes down to the same thing. Generally, and as you women are quick to say, men put priority on looks. Well, women put priority on a man’s economic status. Why deny it and try to go around it?
Employed men primarily want to date employed women and vice versa. Not only that, but employed men want to date hot employed women and vice versa. Christian, Muslim, white, black (insert whatever) men and women primarily want to date each other. And these people are likely to meet their own than not.
 
Old 07-24-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Can you please explain how a woman would even know what a man's economic status is with regard to initial attraction?? Unless he actually shows her his investment portfolio, there is no way she could know.

Please don't argue that if he drives a flashy car, wears fancy clothes..etc that she can tell. Only a bimbo would assume that. An educated, intelligent woman wouldn't make an assumption about his financial status based on his "stuff".
Very true. The majority of people that I know that have a net worth of over 1 million dollars have one thing in common, They are very consistent, they save but are not cheap, They are low profile, and for what ever reason they drive a Ford or Chevy pickup as they're main vehicle not a BMW or Mercedes. They usually have their fair share of toys: Quads, Boats etc, but theyre not trading up every 2 years. Some are tradesmen, some are Engineers, and some are small business owners. The following article seems to encompass some of what I see.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s...llionaire.html

" Most of us (97 percent) are homeowners. We live in homes currently valued at an average of $320,000. About half of us have occupied the same home for more than twenty years. Thus, we have enjoyed significant increases in the value of our homes"

"We live well below our means. We wear inexpensive suits and drive American-made cars. Only a minority of us drive the current-model-year automobile. Only a minority ever lease our motor vehicles"

"We have more than six and one-half times the level of wealth of our nonmillionaire neighbors, but, in our neighborhood, these nonmillionaires outnumber us better than three to one. Could it be that they have chosen to trade wealth for acquiring high-status material possessions?"
 
Old 07-24-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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First dates, conversations, etc. come on, as if you women don’t know these stuff from the start. It’s not like it takes years either. Still, it goes down to the same thing. Generally, and as you women are quick to say, men put priority on looks. Well, women put priority on a man’s economic status. Why deny it and try to go around it?
So you haven't really answered the question. How is a woman supposed to determine his financial status during her "initial attraction"? It's been my experience that those who act like they have money, don't. I'm talking about real wealth here, not the imagined wealth that some men think women are after.

It's pretty impossible to know what is in his portfolio in the beginning of their interactions.
 
Old 07-24-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I don't know if approaching these topics with reason is something that can be easily tolerated by these guys. Chino, what do you think?
Chino doesn't think. Haven't you read his posts?
 
Old 07-24-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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The whole “men are visual, women are nice and sentimental” has been debunked already.
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A man, generally speaking, can care less if she has a job or not. Men are initially attracted to a woman’s looks.
Make up your mind. Has the "men are visual" myth been debunked or not? You have failed the consistency test.
 
Old 07-24-2012, 04:28 PM
 
Location: East coast-New England
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First dates, conversations, etc. come on, as if you women don’t know these stuff from the start. It’s not like it takes years either. Still, it goes down to the same thing. Generally, and as you women are quick to say, men put priority on looks. Well, women put priority on a man’s economic status. Why deny it and try to go around it?

I think EVERYBODY puts priority on looks, because obviously that is usually the first thing u notice. There is a reason all the hot guys have chicks coming out of the woodworks, and hot women have guys falling over them. However, if the guy is goodlooking to the woman, but is a bum with no job and lives in his mother's basement, some women wont like that, where a guy may not care as much if a woman was broke and lived in her basement. However, what is new about that?

GUYS dont care if a woman is broke because MEN are generally seen as the PROVIDER, and they generally think of themselves as that, deep inside. So, they just want a woman to be young and hot. Its the way they are wired. Women will care if a man is broke and has nothing going for them because deep inside they too see a man as a provider. Thats just how we are hard wired. Even a woman who is gainfully employed still wants a guy that can at least be on her level if not higher.

I mean, thats the way things were in the old days, and its the role part of society still sees men and women. Men provide, women raise the kids, etc. And a lot of men like that just fine. Even now in 2012. They think its a woman's 'place'. So, dont get mad if women want to see just how you can provide for them.
 
Old 07-24-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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Make up your mind. Has the "men are visual" myth been debunked or not? You have failed the consistency test.
Good catch. I don't know where this either/or stuff comes from. Both sexes want the hottest, best personality, person with their shyte together as they can get. These traits do not exist in isolation.
 
Old 07-24-2012, 07:34 PM
 
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Good catch. I don't know where this either/or stuff comes from. Both sexes want the hottest, best personality, person with their shyte together as they can get. These traits do not exist in isolation.
So true. And where a person lacks in one area, if they make up for it in another, someone will still accept them. And the right word for that is NOT "settling." It's called acknowledging the reality that the "perfect" match does not exist. At some point you have to acknowledge a person's flaws (flaws as you see them) and take the good with the bad.
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