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Old 02-20-2015, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Richmond VA
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It's no surprise or secret that women hold the cards. That doesn't mean it makes dating any easier for them. While women may have more opportunities, especially with online dating where women likely get 100 replies for every 1 that a man gets, she also has to sort through a lot more frogs before she finds that prince.
since men are WARY of women holding all the cards, it make them even more guarded and paranoid. Every guy I go out with either assumes I have some agenda OR is scarred for life by some other woman's agenda. I'm the most agenda-free person I know. I suspect men do not understand when I say, "Oh, I don't think this is going to work out because _________________" that is what I really mean and it really is over. They often assume some sort of head games will follow as I attempt to manipulate them out of___________. Then 6 months later I get a text that says, Hey, wanna get together sometime? Because they don't understand that I really meant what I said and I did not expect them to change as a result.


 
Old 02-20-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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She quite obviously didn't use a big enough sock.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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She quite obviously didn't use a big enough sock.





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Old 02-20-2015, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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This seems best here. I consider it individual, rather than gender specific.

It's hard for men in that it's expected more, for them to approach women. I can admit that. But for women, even if they sit back and wait, problem is, they may never be asked. And for a woman who waits, or is quiet, she's bound to attract the guys who are predators. A shy woman for an easy score. But then some men get approached as well, and it'll be by women they have no interest in. It can happen for both genders

A person, man or woman, who sits back and waits is limited. Man or a woman. It can be said a woman waiting will have more guys come to her, but doesn't mean anything if it's never anyone she likes. Because timid, small, quiet women will be a target for "bad boys" to put simply. And some don't consider that easier in dating. Quality over Quantity for many. So if women get more dates, just means they can have more garbage to filter through.

So I am not saying men have it easier in dating. But to blanketly say women have it easier, just by being women, seems flawed. Some men will have it easier than some women, and vise-verse.

And location can play a part as well. Some locations are not singles friendly, Small rural areas. That's probably where most people move to who are already married, or retired people. Not the best for a booming social life, more often than not. To name an example.
Excellent post. +1 rep'd
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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ROFLMAO.


I'm almost 50 and get a lot male attention, how are YOU doing?
You're almost 50? I thought you were younger than that.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Yup. Women only "hold all the cards" if men give them the cards in the first place. Women who don't get asked out don't hold any cards. And even when a couple does go out, the man can reject the woman at any time, just like the woman can do with the man. At any point in the process, either one can opt out. They both hold cards.
Stop saying this. Women have all the control when it comes to dating and sex. They decide who gets to date and they decide who gets left behind. Always been this way and always will.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Sure they do. They can go ahead and approach who they like.

That's why I never get this debate because it seems so obvious to me that women have far more options and hold almost all the cards.

A man has 1 option: approach.

A woman has 2 options: approach or sit back and wait.

A guy who sits back and waits is certainly going to die alone, unless he is exceptional in some way.
This pretty much.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: NY
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Stop saying this. Women have all the control when it comes to dating and sex. They decide who gets to date and they decide who gets left behind. Always been this way and always will.
Well, I am not sure this is universally true or accurate all of the time. Women do get rejected and turned down by men too. Maybe not as frequently as the other way around, but it does happen... and as such it shows that women universally do not hold all the cards.

But that is probably what Ruth was getting at. Men who are not acting desperate and leaving their self respect at the door can also be choosy and have say in who they date and sleep with. It is not uncommon.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Well, I am not sure this is universally true or accurate all of the time. Women do get rejected and turned down by men too. Maybe not as frequently as the other way around, but it does happen... and as such it shows that women universally do not hold all the cards.

But that is probably what Ruth was getting at. Men who are not acting desperate and leaving their self respect at the door can also be choosy and have say in who they date and sleep with. It is not uncommon.
Women don't experience rejection like men do. I haven't approached a lot of women in my life because I started dating last year. But I watch people. I stand by what I said. Women choose and men get selected.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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Women don't experience rejection like men do. I haven't approached a lot of women in my life because I started dating last year. But I watch people. I stand by what I said. Women choose and men get selected.
Unattractive women do not have the option of choosing who to date. Most do not get a lot of offers for serious relationships. Mainly one night stands or FWB.
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