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Old 02-01-2022, 07:30 PM
 
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Now I gave my opinion and feel mean. I hear my mom’s voice in my head: “Shhhh! Just be nice!”

Anyone watching Baskets?
Louie Anderson is so amazing in it.
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Old 02-02-2022, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Now I gave my opinion and feel mean. I hear my mom’s voice in my head: “Shhhh! Just be nice!”

Anyone watching Baskets?
Louie Anderson is so amazing in it.
No, what is it about?

We are still working our way through Downton Abbey, but we're on the last season. Good thing some of our shows are coming back soon. Raised by Wolves will be back tomorrow, and The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on the 18th.
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Old 02-02-2022, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
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Still trying to wrap my head around what happened not far from my house to someone with whom I had one of those Pittsburgh "two degrees of separation" connections.

Young mother gone; two children left motherless; a family whose child was stolen from them. A woman who did everything that she was supposed to do in order to protect herself against a violent former romantic partner, only to have him hunt her down and kill her as she arrived at her bus stop after getting off work.

I'm sad for her, her family, her friends, and her coworkers (who are surely blaming themselves because the murderer called the victim's place of employment in order to accurately pinpoint when she would be arriving at her bus stop) but more than that I'm angry. This should not have happened.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Moreno Valley, Ca
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Still trying to wrap my head around what happened not far from my house to someone with whom I had one of those Pittsburgh "two degrees of separation" connections.

Young mother gone; two children left motherless; a family whose child was stolen from them. A woman who did everything that she was supposed to do in order to protect herself against a violent former romantic partner, only to have him hunt her down and kill her as she arrived at her bus stop after getting off work.

I'm sad for her, her family, her friends, and her coworkers (who are surely blaming themselves because the murderer called the victim's place of employment in order to accurately pinpoint when she would be arriving at her bus stop) but more than that I'm angry. This should not have happened.
Oh no! This is awful. I'm so sorry.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
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Oh no! This is awful. I'm so sorry.
To make it even worse, the young woman who was killed was on the phone with her mother when it happened. I cannot imagine how her mother is feeling other than pure rage and grief as this should not have happened.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Still trying to wrap my head around what happened not far from my house to someone with whom I had one of those Pittsburgh "two degrees of separation" connections.

Young mother gone; two children left motherless; a family whose child was stolen from them. A woman who did everything that she was supposed to do in order to protect herself against a violent former romantic partner, only to have him hunt her down and kill her as she arrived at her bus stop after getting off work.

I'm sad for her, her family, her friends, and her coworkers (who are surely blaming themselves because the murderer called the victim's place of employment in order to accurately pinpoint when she would be arriving at her bus stop) but more than that I'm angry. This should not have happened.
My best is with their family. I’ve been around similar situations in different realms.

A few years ago, someone was shot and killed in my mother’s workplace in a similar domestic situation. Thankfully my mother had left for the day when the shooting happened. But this happened on a secured military base of all places.

Also, I as a supervisor walked in on one of my workers being screamed at by an ex-boyfriend. I did the safe thing and called security to escort him off the property to protect my staff. The call center I help manage now is very adamant about not giving out location information or any other info about our workers in the store for safety reasons. I hope I never have to deal with that type of situation personally.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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The call center I help manage now is very adamant about not giving out location information or any other info about our workers in the store for safety reasons. I hope I never have to deal with that type of situation personally.
That's the kind of thing that people don't even think about, "oh her? she just left!" I always pay attention when checking into a hotel that the receptionist doesn't say the room number out loud, because you don't know who's around and listening.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
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That's the kind of thing that people don't even think about, "oh her? she just left!" I always pay attention when checking into a hotel that the receptionist doesn't say the room number out loud, because you don't know who's around and listening.
Here's the thing: the murderer was smart and didn't ask about the victim--he called and asked when the store would be closing using a phone that did not belong to him. He actively hunted her down using that information- information that pretty much any business that serves the public would give out.

Here's the kicker: he murdered her using a gun that she'd bought for protection from him. A gun that he stole from her earlier in January after beating her with it. Not to say that he wouldn't have killed her anyway by some other means because his actions were not those of someone who was doing something in the heat of the moment. Gun or no gun, that guy was set on ending her life for who knows what reason.

This isn't the first time that I've been around something like this going down, but this is the first that I've seen it become deadly. (Years ago, I had a former coworker stay with me until she could get herself away. Safest place for her as he had no idea that I existed and no one at work knew that she was staying with me other than HR).

Diss--I'm glad that your mom wasn't caught in the middle of that. Domestic violence is no joke.
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Old 02-02-2022, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Here's the thing: the murderer was smart and didn't ask about the victim--he called and asked when the store would be closing using a phone that did not belong to him. He actively hunted her down using that information- information that pretty much any business that serves the public would give out.

Here's the kicker: he murdered her using a gun that she'd bought for protection from him. A gun that he stole from her earlier in January after beating her with it. Not to say that he wouldn't have killed her anyway by some other means because his actions were not those of someone who was doing something in the heat of the moment. Gun or no gun, that guy was set on ending her life for who knows what reason.
Oh, wow. How awful and unsettling.
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:13 PM
 
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Here's the thing: the murderer was smart and didn't ask about the victim--he called and asked when the store would be closing using a phone that did not belong to him. He actively hunted her down using that information- information that pretty much any business that serves the public would give out.

Here's the kicker: he murdered her using a gun that she'd bought for protection from him. A gun that he stole from her earlier in January after beating her with it. Not to say that he wouldn't have killed her anyway by some other means because his actions were not those of someone who was doing something in the heat of the moment. Gun or no gun, that guy was set on ending her life for who knows what reason.

This isn't the first time that I've been around something like this going down, but this is the first that I've seen it become deadly. (Years ago, I had a former coworker stay with me until she could get herself away. Safest place for her as he had no idea that I existed and no one at work knew that she was staying with me other than HR).

Diss--I'm glad that your mom wasn't caught in the middle of that. Domestic violence is no joke.



Just absolutely awful. Heartbreaking for the people left behind and the woman who lost her life obviously.

I think we are making improvements but not fast enough.
There are still lots of loopholes in the system abusers use. There is still quite a lot of misogyny and victim blaming/shaming which makes people less likely to be believed or get the help they need. Its sad and frankly sickening.

So many preventable deaths have not been prevented because of stigma, bias, and prejudice.

We are slowly moving in the right direction though.

Sharing stories like this raises awareness and hopefully when enough people take it seriously, changes in policy, and perception,wiill happen in the right direction.
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