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I can't be part of an institution that massacred thousands, women in fields picking herbs!
Or anyone that hides a pedophile rather than calling the police...I left another group because of this 'not calling the police' thing.
I was Catholic and confirmed by Bishop Fulton J Sheen...I was VERY Catholic.
I do like some things about the Church, tho...and how you are raised with a
'bent' towards the mystical...magical things in life.
Bishop Sheen is my favorite Catholic Teacher/ Author outside of the Bible.
I my friend am adding you too my daily prayer intentions. Might I humbly suggest that you pray MUCH too.
I have not the slightest idea what the 1st point you make is referring too? As for pedophile priest; it is abhorrent! However if you think the RCC ALONE has this problem; your lacking information. and YES they should be turned in and prosecuted to the FULL extent of the Law. what began with a charitable desire to protect the reputation [SLANDER] of the priest quickly became CYATRULY SHOCKING!
That said; you have my friend in a sense "thrown out baby with the wash water: and you're accepting the GUILT and allowing it to consume YOU!
NO other Faith; NO other Church [Eastern excepted] can allow you to:
1. Have KNOWN forgiveness of your sin: NO OTHER!
John 20: 19-23
[19] Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you. [20] And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord. [21] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you[This dear friend is literal: they are sent with God's Authority and Powers...READ Mt. 10:1-8]. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained
AND No other Church or faith can put YOU face to face literally with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. NONE! Zip! ZERRO! Pray about this and READ Hebrews 6:1-8 which is written to inform Catholic apostates of the extreme risk they have chosen to take. This passage refers directly and exclusively to fallen away Catholics.
Patrick, you may feel your getting your point across by quoting all those passages, but your not. This is not a thesis or dissertation that requires point by point citation. In fact, it turns people off, and frankly, you may have made a cogent point, but it got lost.
I, nor virtually anyone else here cares or has read your post in entirety.
Perhaps if you just make your point, and if you feel the necessity to quote biblical passages, why not just refer to them with a link to where you are copying them from?
Thank you for sharing your view. I don't doubt that it has real merit.
However this is a PUBLIC forum and those reading my post don't know me personally; I therefore MUST give and provide evidence of my positions, so that it is clearly understood that I AM speaking on behalf of my Roman Catholic Church.
I am a trained Marian Catechist, which is a Lay Apostolate approved by Rome to expose, share, teach and when called to; defend our Catholic Faith.
Yeah, when it comes to human sacrifice and cannibalism, why should only the guys be allowed to do it? Why aren't the ladies allowed to participate in all the fun?
Patrick will undoubtedly give a more thorough response, but that statement is not really true. Sex within marriage must be taken with the openness to life resulting from the action.
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Sex within marriage must be taken with the openness to life resulting from the action.
As staed it is absoutely RIGHT as well as being correct.
And my friend be assured that it it NOT an invention of the RCC
Gen.38: 6-10 “And Judah took a wife for Er his first-born, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah's first-born, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. Then Judah [the Father of both sons] said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife he spilled the semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD, and he slew him also”
God was so horrified by this innovative contraception that He literally killed Onan; BOTH literally and Spiritually!
Ecclesiasticus 15:18 "Before man is life and death, good and evil, that which he shall choose shall be given him"
The Contraceptive industry; which BTW, is a multi-BILLON dollar industry has existed not a whole lot of years than have I. AND I am only 71
Check out the history; GOOGLE history of contraception in the US for example.
Their clergy dress funny. And the pope..what's with the hat? And they basically outright worship Mary, which I guess is no stranger than worshipping her Son, but still. And too much ritual.
You ask what people find to be odd about the RCC, and you do a decent job of replying to most posts. The problem with your defense of the faith is that it relies ultimately upon the truth of the bible.
Can you explain to me why I should accept any biblical claims? So far as I am concerned, the bible is simply a collection of myths. Given that fact, your defense has no value.
Patrick, I would just like to know whether the following statement is accurate or not with respect to Catholic beliefs:
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Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28
By the way, it may be OK to be childless, but that SEXUAL INTERCOURSE is an absolute SIN outside the intent to procreate...
(This is, of course, assuming that the man and woman involved are legally married.)
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Originally Posted by Patrick for Christ
THANK YOU, and I agree you are NOT the "average Mormon"
God Bless you,
Patrick
A catechist who dodges questions??? How interesting. Why didn't you answer Katz's question, Patrick???
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