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Old 06-13-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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It's all the same hate, just from a different book.
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Old 06-13-2016, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How in hell did the shooter get a pass....He was shot dead....Is this what you call logic?
How do you think? People on this thread are giving him and his radical islamist beliefs a pass, and instead they tear into Christians.
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Old 06-13-2016, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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How do you think? People on this thread are giving him and his radical islamist beliefs a pass, and instead they tear into Christians.
How many radical Islamists do you think we are going to reach on this thread, or even the whole site? What is the point of holding radical Islamists consciences to the fire? Fundamentalist Christians, on the other hand are here in numbers and need to be told that their attitudes and actions are part and parcel of this kind of activity.
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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Indeed I was not the one that brought it up . I am not tooting my own horn in claiming that people like yourself lack the courage to respond . I am simply stating facts. The fact that this is inconvenient for you and yours and you can respond in no other way than these and Finns types of silly dodges is not my problem.

Find the courage to deal with what your own folks publicly say rather than getting upset with those that point out the wrongness of what they say .
Just because someone states something ignorant and stupid doesn't mean I have to reply as I brush it off as I know subsequent statements made will bring more of the same.
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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Just because someone states something ignorant and stupid doesn't mean I have to reply as I brush it off as I know subsequent statements made will bring more of the same.


If by ignorant and stupid you are referring to your sides comments advocating violence towards gays, then I agree with your assessment of their intellect.
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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But, it is the close minded ideologues who feed hatred of the LGBTQ community. Who but Christians hold signs saying God Hates F-A-G-S? It feeds hatred.
Christians had nothing to do with this. Islamic terrorists attacked the gay community, period! Mr. Trump is right. It's time to ban all Muslim immigration until we can get a handle on this. They are coming here to kill us!
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Christians had nothing to do with this. Islamic terrorists attacked the gay community, period! Mr. Trump is right. It's time to ban all Muslim immigration until we can get a handle on this. They are coming here to kill us!
The shooter was a U.S. Citizen, born and raised in NYC.
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Muslims commit more terrorist acts than the rest of the world put together, and then some. Keep believing Christians and muslims are the same- total ignorance.
Well....by sheer numbers they probably should be committing the most terrorist acts because theRe are far more of them than Christians and atheists combined.

But the part I think that is trying to be conveyed is that, the same fallacious arguments used by radical Muslims to rationalise abhorrent beliefs, are the same fallacious arguments used by many Christians. The only difference it seems....is that the majority of Christians are living in cultures where there is a (theoretically) secular government....and the mostly Muslim countries are run with a theocratic influence, if not outright theocracy.

And that ought not be so easily dismissed from the conversation about whether this is a Muslim problem, whereas Christianity would never do such a thing.
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Christians had nothing to do with this.
Nothing directly to do with it ... only indirectly by contributing to the normalizing of homophobia.
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Islamic terrorists attacked the gay community, period!
One mentally unstable man used Islamic extremist ideology as an excuse for mass murder.
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Mr. Trump is right. It's time to ban all Muslim immigration until we can get a handle on this. They are coming here to kill us!
Musilm Americans are among our most successful citizens. They are better educated and wealthier than most non-Muslim Americans. As a result, they are exceedingly difficult to radicalize, unlike many European Muslims.

It is inherently impossible to "ban" a group based on ideology because you can't accurately determine what is in between their ears. Muslim jihadists will simply dress in western clothes and claim not to be Muslim. Real Muslims identified via profiling (e.g., they wear Muslim garb) will be the only ones actually excluded, and the vast, vast majority of those are harmless and even fine people.

Mr Trump is simply preying on your primal fears, confirmation bias, and xenophobia ... and you're letting him. Even Bush the Lesser was a self-styled "uniter, not a divider" but Trump wants to make us a nation of fearful otherizers. Shame on you for supporting his hateful rhetoric. He is actually supporting and fostering terrorism by encouraging people to be terrorized and divided.
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Old 06-13-2016, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The shooter was a U.S. Citizen, born and raised in NYC.
Give me a break! Have you been in isolation for the last 36 hours? He was an Islamic terrorist!
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