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Old 06-12-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Sadly, we will only see more acts from ISIS like this keep happening thanks to an ineffective president who seems powerless to stop them.
Now, now, now. Remember the prez is powerless to stop this type of stuff because it's all part of "God's plan."
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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Or we could be like Canada and lose our freedom of speech. You even commenting on this thread is a very low class thing to do.
What freedoms of speech do Canadians not have?

And why shouldn't Trout comment on a thread with regards to the religious implications? After all, this is the R&S forum and as such, the religious aspects are the most relevant here. If you are looking for pages of condolences I'm sure there is a thread in the Current Events forum.
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Old 06-12-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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OP got a lot of nerve attacking Christians for this wicked massacre , as Christians would be appalled at such brutalities of murder if any degree
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:03 PM
 
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Why do those who continually rail against gays and proclaim how they mock and displease God not understand the effect their words have ? Do you truly think there is no connection between the 24/7/365 haranguing of how sinful gays are, how evil their lifestyle is, how they corrupt society , and some religious nut feeding off of this and doing something like this ?

There is only one person to blame, and that is the shooter. Most rational people can disagree with a lifestyle yet not feel a desire to go mow people down. Blaming Christians would be like blaming the students of Columbine High for their mass murder. After all, the shooters were bullied and harassed by their classmates. You want to go up to one of them in a wheelchair and tell them they caused it, not the shooter?
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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OP got a lot of nerve attacking Christians for this wicked massacre , as Christians would be appalled at such brutalities of murder if any degree
Like this guy?

Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America, his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered.


ORTHIS GUY?

The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God.

or this guy?

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.

Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work.
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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0h do get off the pedestal. IF we never say a thing against homosexuality, these acts would still occur. What's the alternative? We should just accept a lie and embrace a sinful lifestyle? Christians are not committing acts of violence or calling to HATE people. Muslim extremists are. I find it disgusting that the posters here would use this tragedy to scapegoat Christians.
Oh, please.

My friend is on a CC sports team that was almost torn apart bc some dumb lady got all Christian fundie about a gay teammate (she never even met). After spreading snide remarks.

How Christian of her...trying to spread hate.
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Like this guy?

Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America, his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered.


ORTHIS GUY?

The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God.

or this guy?

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.

Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work.
Yeah cuz an atheist or non-Christian would NEVER do something like that, right? Oh wait, they do against Christians:


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“[He started] asking people one by one what their religion was. ‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and if you’re a Christian, stand up. And they would stand up and he said, ‘Good, because you’re a Christian, you are going to see God in just about one second.’ And then he shot and killed them,” Stacy Boylen, whose daughter was wounded at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., told CNN.
Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage | New York Post
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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Yeah cuz an atheist or non-Christian would NEVER do something like that, right? Oh wait, they do against Christians:




Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage | New York Post
Hate crimes are intolerable on any level. Stop feeding the beast of hatred.. Stand with your brothers and sisters in the LGBTQ community. They are Chriistian.. They are Muslim. They are Hebrew. They are Atheists.
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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So much hate on this thread. Guess who from (hint: the freethinking, liberal, open mined folk).

Come on folks, did a Christian walk into a gay bar in Orlando with an assault rifle?
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: USA
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So much hate on this thread. Guess who from (hint: the freethinking, liberal, open mined folk).

Come on folks, did a Christian walk into a gay bar in Orlando with an assault rifle?
Any person spouting anti-gay rhetoric could very well have walked into that bar as thoughts in that man's head. You all are on public forums... You think no one reads what you say? You think it doesn't contribute to spreading condemnation and hate? We don't speak into a vacuum.
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