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Old 02-15-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You know that the resurrection is a sacred concept for some people. And it undoubtedly gives you great joy to refer to the resurrection, which has no impact on your life, as "dude dying...." It's a never-ending unprovoked insult, but that's what keyboards are for these days.
I don't much care if it's perceived as an insult since I hear christians make equally stupid statements about Buddhism. But I wish someone would tell Arach that there is no rule that he must use the phrase on a daily basis.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I think it's a near-perfect precis for the essential element of the Christian story that rings completely false to the average (non-Christian) person.

You can dress it up in flowery language but Arach isn't one to put lipstick on a pig.
Of course it is false to the average non-Christian person. It would be false to anyone but a Christian!

That said, what may be a pig to you - is a delicious ham to someone else. There are always different perspectives; and the goal of an intelligent debate is not to dump on the opponent or declare ‘it’s a pig’ but instead, to effectively explain WHY, discuss and/or persuade - but that clearly is not what many are doing on religious threads (per the OP’s question) and why it is clear that many (not all) have no reason to post under a thread such as this one - other than to insult, mock, or ridicule anyone who has an opposing view as a way of feeling superior.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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But I wish someone would tell Arach that there is no rule that he must use the phrase on a daily basis.
Exactly!
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:27 PM
 
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You know that the resurrection is a sacred concept for some people. And it undoubtedly gives you great joy to refer to the resurrection, which has no impact on your life, as "dude dying...." It's a never-ending unprovoked insult, but that's what keyboards are for these days.
You are dismissing the claim based on how you feel and not what I said.

That is major problem.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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Exactly!
you are losing sight of the bigger picture there cowboy.

How it sounds to you is exactly how the claim itself sounds to me.

I find it rude, arrogant, and down right deceitful that a person would try and tell me to ignore everything we know and follow a blind faith that a dude died, rose, and flew away for our sins.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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you are losing sight of the bigger picture there cowboy.

How it sounds to you is exactly how the claim itself sounds to me.

I find it rude, arrogant, and down right deceitful that a person would try and tell me to ignore everything we know and follow a blind faith that a dude died, rose, and flew away for our sins.
That's the third time I've read that general phrase of yours in just five minutes.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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you are losing sight of the bigger picture there cowboy.

How it sounds to you is exactly how the claim itself sounds to me.

I find it rude, arrogant, and down right deceitful that a person would try and tell me to ignore everything we know and follow a blind faith that a dude died, rose, and flew away for our sins
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Who's telling you this? Anyone on this forum? You claim to be middle of the road, but you get your jabs in attacking other's belief systems and then feign the faultless, victimized position.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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you are losing sight of the bigger picture there cowboy.

How it sounds to you is exactly how the claim itself sounds to me.

I find it rude, arrogant, and down right deceitful that a person would try and tell me to ignore everything we know and follow a blind faith that a dude died, rose, and flew away for our sins.
No one asked you to ignore it or have blind faith in it. I certainly don’t - why would I ask you to? lol
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Of course it is false to the average non-Christian person. It would be false to anyone but a Christian!

That said, what may be a pig to you - is a delicious ham to someone else.

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I'm not sure that referring to the Resurrection as a delicious ham would be considered much of an improvement by most Christians, especially given the religion into which Jesus was born.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I'm not sure that referring to the Resurrection as a delicious ham would be considered much of an improvement by most Christians, especially given the religion into which Jesus was born.
It was an analogy in re to perspective - absolutely nothing to do with the Resurrection.
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