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I actually rarely even think about this anymore, but when I first moved to Northeast Texas from what is acknowledged to be the Deep South by anyone with a smidgen of a brain, after living in the Deep South for 12 years of my life, the marked differences jumped out at me often. Now they rarely register.
Oh we dont need an honorary membership to a club that we've also chartered...thanks for offering anyway though Kathy
..I just think its adorable when people who claim to be from everywhere else want to insist that East Texas isnt the Deep South...thats all..i find it rather amusing myself as I think most people do.
In fact Im glad youve decided to tag along with those of us born and raised in the Deep South; I find it most flattering.
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12-20-2017, 06:23 AM
Location: Central Texas
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Most people who use the "Texas is Texas" statement don't actually have a valid argument on that basis, but simply are using it as a cop-out.
On what basis other than that it doesn't agree with what you prefer to think?
12-20-2017, 06:25 AM
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Oh we dont need an honorary membership to a club that we've also chartered...thanks for offering anyway though KathyI just think its adorable when people who claim to be from everywhere else want to insist that East Texas isnt the Deep South ...thats all..i find it rather amusing myself as I think most people do.
As I said, I was born and bred in East Texas and my family all the way back pre-Republic was, too. So what argument do you have to try to brush off my opinion because it does not agree with what you WANT to believe?
12-20-2017, 03:31 PM
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As I said, I was born and bred in East Texas and my family all the way back pre-Republic was, too. So what argument do you have to try to brush off my opinion because it does not agree with what you WANT to believe?
What does you being born in the 1700s or whatever have to do with anything? Congratulations, but that literally doesnt have anything to do with me. You can believe whatever you WANT to believe. Its irrelevant to me.
12-20-2017, 05:21 PM
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soletaire Oh we dont need an honorary membership to a club that we've also chartered...thanks for offering anyway though KathyI just think its adorable when people who claim to be from everywhere else want to insist that East Texas isnt the Deep South ...thats all..i find it rather amusing myself as I think most people do.
As I said, I was born and bred in East Texas and my family all the way back pre-Republic was, too. So what argument do you have to try to brush off my opinion because it does not agree with what you WANT to believe?
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What does you being born in the 1700s or whatever have to do with anything? Congratulations, but that literally doesnt have anything to do with me. You can believe whatever you WANT to believe. Its irrelevant to me.
Since you were saying that it was cute that people who are from elsewhere insist that East Texas isn't the Deep South, it seemed that you needed my bona fides in order to justify my opinion.
Speaking of which, since YOU brought it up in your post above, what are YOUR bona fides?
12-20-2017, 08:57 PM
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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On what basis other than that it doesn't agree with what you prefer to think?
Because most who go by the sentiment (including yourself) never really go on to discuss what traits entail this united "Texas" region other than being within the same border. What connects the swamps of SE Texas with the deserts of El Paso and the citrus farms of the Lower Rio Grande Valley other than the fact that they are in the same state? What are these unique traits?
Most never answer those questions when arguing for the sentiment, it all just stops with "because Texas is large and varied," as if the same can't be said for states like California or Florida.
12-21-2017, 07:28 AM
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Because most who go by the sentiment (including yourself) never really go on to discuss what traits entail this united "Texas" region other than being within the same border. What connects the swamps of SE Texas with the deserts of El Paso and the citrus farms of the Lower Rio Grande Valley other than the fact that they are in the same state? What are these unique traits?
I'm interested in hearing whether or not she thinks of Florida as a southern state; Miami included.
12-21-2017, 02:24 PM
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as if the same can't be said for states like California or Florida.
Yeah, they actually can. California has southern and northern parts, and I don't mean compass directions. If you don't believe that, you've never been there.
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What connects the swamps of SE Texas with the deserts of El Paso and the citrus farms of the Lower Rio Grande Valley other than the fact that they are in the same state?
A shared border means a shared history and a shared culture (a culture that involves TX being an independent state in 1837 not in 1796. "Remember the Alamo" means something to Texans whether they are in El Paso or Houston but it doesn't mean much to people from Arkansas.
12-21-2017, 02:49 PM
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Yeah, they actually can. California has southern and northern parts, and I don't mean compass directions. If you don't believe that, you've never been there.A shared border means a shared history and a shared culture (a culture that involves TX being an independent state in 1837 not in 1796. "Remember the Alamo" means something to Texans whether they are in El Paso or Houston but it doesn't mean much to people from Arkansas.
Then I guess that makes El Paso a certified southern city, since it once existed within the border of the Confederacy.
There is somewhat of a "shared history and culture" within the entire border of the USA, but does that necessarily mean that Maine is more culturally similar to New Mexico than New Brunswick? I don't believe so.
12-21-2017, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, they actually can. California has southern and northern parts, and I don't mean compass directions. If you don't believe that, you've never been there.
I'm just inquiring if all of you that go with the "Texas is Texas" sentiment also consider states like California and Florida also their own regions?
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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