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I love Tom's storyline. He's probably accomplishing more for his cause now at Downton than he ever would have at Socialist rallies. He's convinced him to build nice homes for people, and modernize the estate.
I agree. That is what I said too a few pages back. Here is my quote:
My hope with Tom is that he does not look for or get together with Bunting. My hope is that he realizes how he can make a difference now that he is "in" that circle. That he does not need to be extreme like Bunting to see some of the change he would like to see.
I guess it's part of her character, but for some reason all the men seem to want her and it's implied that she's more fun than Edith. I just don't see it. I was really hoping last season Edith would become more interesting with her journalism and embrace the new age, but instead they had her become this dreadful, sad person pining over her lost love and the baby. I guess that's life, but I so wanted Edith to surpass Mary. I don't know why, but Mary's haughtiness and the way she treats Edith, especially after Sybil died, just really irked me. Mary's only redeeming qualities is that she seems to genuinely like the servants and she's not a terrible snob towards Tom.
The writers have really dropped the ball with both Edith and Mary this season. They set the stage for Edith to have a career as a writer and editor and to work with Gregson's magazine, but all she does is pine and stalk a toddler around the village. Mary came out of her depression and was given a lot more responsibility with managing the estate, but the only aspect of her life we're presented with is "ooh, who's she going to marry?" They both could be a lot more interesting and well-rounded characters.
The writers have really dropped the ball with both Edith and Mary this season. They set the stage for Edith to have a career as a writer and editor and to work with Gregson's magazine, but all she does is pine and stalk a toddler around the village. Mary came out of her depression and was given a lot more responsibility with managing the estate, but the only aspect of her life we're presented with is "ooh, who's she going to marry?" They both could be a lot more interesting and well-rounded characters.
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The writing has always been bad, it's a shame as they could have much more happening, something seems to start off interesting then comes to a stop and turns boring , some people on here have better ideas than the writers.
Oh, I think the police would be upset no matter if Anna had reported it. Unfortunately women who report rape end up having to defend themselves. Still do sometimes. Keep in mind this is England, not the US. They think/thought differently than Americans.
Back then, a woman who was raped was considered ruined no matter what the circumstances were.
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Joanne Froggatt (Anna). Says now she drew insparation for her portrayal of getting raped from a friends grandmother that was a maid in the 1930s and was raped ....that was after she got the Oscar Lol I don't believe that story for a minute, I doubt she got the Oscar just for the rape screen like she thinks she did
Back then, a woman who was raped was considered ruined no matter what the circumstances were.
Not Oscar.
Golden Globe
That is why so few women reported it. Up until now it's always "she was asking for it". Even now there is that stigma, especially the way girls/women dress.
I agree. That is what I said too a few pages back. Here is my quote:
My hope with Tom is that he does not look for or get together with Bunting. My hope is that he realizes how he can make a difference now that he is "in" that circle. That he does not need to be extreme like Bunting to see some of the change he would like to see.
Good post. I think Tom realizes that, and even Robert was saying that to him in his own way.
Totally agree - she should have thought more about how Tom would feel for his family to be criticized like that. It was a formal dinner and she just wouldn't let things go, which shows a lack of not only etiquette, but common decency. Somebody once said of polite English conversation - avoid topics related to politics, religion, and money.
Tom's storyline is great. He is creating change from within and that's usually the way effective change is made. His character has really evolved over the seasons and I don't think he would be as interesting if Sybil was still alive. If Sybil was still alive, they would have probably moved back to Ireland again or even to the States. I think the actress that plays Sybil was in a time travel movie recently, but I forgot the title, other than that, I haven't seen her in much of anything, same situation with Dan Stevens. They both left the show for greener pastures, but I think it was too soon to leave. They can't even come back now because they've been written out permanently. Well, maybe Dan Stevens can return as a look-alike and Mary falls in love again with the doppelganger.
I'm sure they'll both find work, but maybe it would have been better to wait a little while since they were on a popular show, not only in England but here as well. Both of them are very nice looking and good actors, so I'm sure they'll be okay. I've never seen an English actor that wasn't amazing. They are very well trained over there.
The writers have really dropped the ball with both Edith and Mary this season. They set the stage for Edith to have a career as a writer and editor and to work with Gregson's magazine, but all she does is pine and stalk a toddler around the village. Mary came out of her depression and was given a lot more responsibility with managing the estate, but the only aspect of her life we're presented with is "ooh, who's she going to marry?" They both could be a lot more interesting and well-rounded characters.
You're so right. I guess it's more realistic this way, but I wanted them to be more interesting.
Back then, a woman who was raped was considered ruined no matter what the circumstances were.
Not Oscar.
Golden Globe
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