Men, what do you think about expensive engagement rings? (wedding gift, marriage, husband)
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This oft-repeated "quid pro quo" line is such a bald faced cop out...I notice women drag that sorry excuse out only when they themselves don't want to have any expectation placed upon them of reciprocating anything lol... Oh they may do some trivial gesture for their significant other, but the caveat is that it can't be expected by their partners. Men have allowed any expectations that men have of women in today's relationships to be framed as "oppression" by society and by women in particular. Whatever women do DECIDE to do for men in relationships is framed as a "treat" or some nicety that should be deeply, and eternally appreciated, but under no circumstances, expected. Now they as women, have a very strict set of clear expectations and entitlements of men in their male role in the relationship... you step up to them thinking that they'll accept anything less than the most traditional male gestures of romance & love from you as a man, and watch how quick that "I don't believe in quid pro quo" mumbo jumbo flies out of the window when you try to use it as that guy who refuses to pay for dinner or an engagement ring...lol...for today's women that whole equality spiel takes a back seat when it's time to pull their own weight in relationships.
This oft-repeated "quid pro quo" line is such a bald faced cop out...I notice women drag that sorry excuse out only when they themselves don't want to have any expectation placed upon them of reciprocating anything lol... Oh they may do some trivial gesture for their significant other, but the caveat is that it can't be expected by their partners. Men have allowed any expectations that men have of women in today's relationships to be framed as "oppression" by society and by women in particular. Whatever women do DECIDE to do for men in relationships is framed as a "treat" or some nicety that should be deeply, and eternally appreciated, but under no circumstances, expected. Now they as women, have a very strict set of clear expectations of men in their male role in the relationship... you step up to them thinking that they'll accept anything less than the most traditional male gestures of romance & love from you as a man, and watch how quick that "I don't believe in quid pro quo" mumbo jumbo flies out of the window when you try to use it as that guy who refuses to pay for dinner or an engagement ring...lol...for today's women that whole equality spiel takes a back seat when it's time to pull their own weight in relationships.
This oft-repeated "quid pro quo" line is such a bald faced cop out...I notice women drag that sorry excuse out only when they themselves don't want to have any expectation placed upon them of reciprocating anything lol... Oh they may do some trivial gesture for their significant other, but the caveat is that it can't be expected by their partners. Men have allowed any expectations that men have of women in today's relationships to be framed as "oppression" by society and by women in particular. Whatever women do DECIDE to do for men in relationships is framed as a "treat" or some nicety that should be deeply, and eternally appreciated, but under no circumstances, expected. Now they as women, have a very strict set of clear expectations and entitlements of men in their male role in the relationship... you step up to them thinking that they'll accept anything less than the most traditional male gestures of romance & love from you as a man, and watch how quick that "I don't believe in quid pro quo" mumbo jumbo flies out of the window when you try to use it as that guy who refuses to pay for dinner or an engagement ring...lol...for today's women that whole equality spiel takes a back seat when it's time to pull their own weight in relationships.
Gotta love generalizations like this. So very, very amusing.
This oft-repeated "quid pro quo" line is such a bald faced cop out...I notice women drag that sorry excuse out only when they themselves don't want to have any expectation placed upon them of reciprocating anything lol... Oh they may do some trivial gesture for their significant other, but the caveat is that it can't be expected by their partners. Men have allowed any expectations that men have of women in today's relationships to be framed as "oppression" by society and by women in particular. Whatever women do DECIDE to do for men in relationships is framed as a "treat" or some nicety that should be deeply, and eternally appreciated, but under no circumstances, expected. Now they as women, have a very strict set of clear expectations and entitlements of men in their male role in the relationship... you step up to them thinking that they'll accept anything less than the most traditional male gestures of romance & love from you as a man, and watch how quick that "I don't believe in quid pro quo" mumbo jumbo flies out of the window when you try to use it as that guy who refuses to pay for dinner or an engagement ring...lol...for today's women that whole equality spiel takes a back seat when it's time to pull their own weight in relationships.
So you keep track of who pays for what and who has done what for whom in your relationships? How does that work out for you?
I'll let you in on a little secret - when you are with the right person - you both want to do everything in your power to make the other person happy. I want to make my husband happy every day. We don't keep score. We don't have a spreadsheet. We simply love each other and enjoy making each other happy. He is very proud of the ring that he gave me and I think it's the most beautiful ring I've ever seen. I don't see the need to then justify this by listing all the things I've done for him. And I don't think that if I told you all the things that I've done for him that you would follow up with, "Well, what has HE done for YOU?"
Sadly with all the improvements in equality for women, this has not been changed. I think engagement rings should go away. It's a union between man and a woman so it should be equal. A man should not have to be the one who buys the engagement ring. It doesn't represent equality.
It's a union between man and a woman so it should be equal. A man should not have to be the one who buys the engagement ring. It doesn't represent equality.
A man doesn't "have" to do anything. Neither does a woman.
This oft-repeated "quid pro quo" line is such a bald faced cop out...I notice women drag that sorry excuse out only when they themselves don't want to have any expectation placed upon them of reciprocating anything lol... Oh they may do some trivial gesture for their significant other, but the caveat is that it can't be expected by their partners. Men have allowed any expectations that men have of women in today's relationships to be framed as "oppression" by society and by women in particular. Whatever women do DECIDE to do for men in relationships is framed as a "treat" or some nicety that should be deeply, and eternally appreciated, but under no circumstances, expected. Now they as women, have a very strict set of clear expectations and entitlements of men in their male role in the relationship... you step up to them thinking that they'll accept anything less than the most traditional male gestures of romance & love from you as a man, and watch how quick that "I don't believe in quid pro quo" mumbo jumbo flies out of the window when you try to use it as that guy who refuses to pay for dinner or an engagement ring...lol...for today's women that whole equality spiel takes a back seat when it's time to pull their own weight in relationships.
Women do trivial gestures like carry, give birth, nurse and raise mens offspring. If women use the "quid pro quo line" it's not a cop out, it's because adult women and men understand on a deep level how absurd the very concept of quid pro quo is.
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