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Old 03-02-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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You couldn't give me any amount of money to ever live in California EVER
California is quite nice and not as backwards as someone might think. And outside of Los Angeles / San Francisco, it's not too crowded either. Would I have 50% raise to go back, I'd probably take it
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Old 03-02-2018, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Verona, WI
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Just got back from a week-long trip visiting friends in the Monterey, CA area, and other than the high housing costs, the day-to-day quality of life there is fantastic. Very little traffic, mountains and ocean abounding, tons of fresh produce in February, lots of open space, good proximity to San Francisco and the Bay Area should one need additional amenities. Plus all of the salt stays in the ocean where it belongs, and not on my car. Such a beautiful area. Everybody should drive down Route 1 to Big Sur at least once in their life. It's truly breathtaking. We definitely plan to go back!
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Old 03-02-2018, 11:21 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Just got back from a week-long trip visiting friends in the Monterey, CA area, and other than the high housing costs, the day-to-day quality of life there is fantastic. Very little traffic, mountains and ocean abounding, tons of fresh produce in February, lots of open space, good proximity to San Francisco and the Bay Area should one need additional amenities. Plus all of the salt stays in the ocean where it belongs, and not on my car. Such a beautiful area. Everybody should drive down Route 1 to Big Sur at least once in their life. It's truly breathtaking. We definitely plan to go back!

Driving up to Arcata and camping among the red woods, then walking to the coastline and seeing the seals with gray whales breaching just beyond them was truly inspiring. It's a beautiful state.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Just got back from a week-long trip visiting friends in the Monterey, CA area, and other than the high housing costs, the day-to-day quality of life there is fantastic. Very little traffic


Very little traffic? The Pacific Coast Highway is bogged down at rush hour. Try driving south from San Fran to Monterey on the PCH at 5:00pm. Getting thru Half Moon Bay takes forever.
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:07 PM
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Location: ^##
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California is fine in it's natural state. The problem is most people have to live in the crowded cities, and the politics there are just awful.
I would have loved it 50-100 years ago.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:20 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Very little traffic? The Pacific Coast Highway is bogged down at rush hour. Try driving south from San Fran to Monterey on the PCH at 5:00pm. Getting thru Half Moon Bay takes forever.
He said Monterey, not San Francisco. Its like saying Madison sucks because Milwaukee...

There are 2 cities here with bad traffic but 20 million of us don't live in those awful places and find life far better than living in a cold flyover state.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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California was a great place to move to in 1965, not now. Too many problems, much better places to live now. I would much rather live in Wisconsin, cold weather and all.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: 415->916->602
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Quality of life: Wisconsin #3, California #50
Opportunity: Wisconsin #8, California #46


California use to be the measuring stick. As a native, i had it with California.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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California use to be the measuring stick.
I didn't meant to derail this thread into a California vs Wisconsin discussion. My emoji use was more a sign of wow, shock, & excitement because California has it all as previously mentioned. Mountains, sun, ocean, national parks plus silicon valley & numerous large corps. For Wi to actually beat them in some categories is like David vs Goliath.

I'd live there (California - in a smaller city) if I could afford it & convince my wife to move away from family.
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Old 03-03-2018, 12:54 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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That's just one person's opinion. Measuring quality of life is subjective. I moved here last year for quality of life and I know it can't be last place based on our experience so far it should be first place.
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