Why do people think if we are unemployed we are LAZY??? (bankruptcy, education)
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I've been reading this post all the way through (I skimmed over some of the insult calling). It's interesting.
I'm unemployed. I graduated from college, moved back in with my parents, and it took me three months to find a job that paid $9/hr for 30 hours a week, but I was happy to have it. Unfortunately, then the economy got worse and as one of the newer hires I was laid off after four months of solid work. I hadn't worked long enough to even be considered for unemployment, plus I was working an office position with a research company so I was being 'rehired' for each new project they got and so even if I had worked there longer, I'd not have qualified as I was only ever a temporary worker.
I wasn't worried though, because I had some money saved for about two months cushion (which I think was pretty good for only having worked four months) and I thought I'd find a job. And I did... 11 months later.
Another temporary position, helping relaunch a website. Once it was launched, the job was over. I didn't have enough time to really get my feet back under me, bill wise, before it was over, but I got about one month's cushion.
That was five months ago.
My mom has fibromalygia and is unemployed. Hers isn't bad enough that she couldn't work at all, but she can only work part-time, no more than two days in a row, in a sit-down position. And in this economy, she can't afford to be picky and hasn't been able to find anything, though she did work for the Census briefly this year. But the Census, in our area, had a wonderful return rate-- great for them, but meant that she had two months less work than anticipated.
My father is a manager of a grocery store and works 50 hours weeks. And yes, people do have to eat and grocery stores are still in business-- but if you're on a decreased income the first place people cut their budget is food. So they aren't doing great these past few years and with inflation, we're majorly struggling.
Apply as I may, I've only heard back from four jobs at ALL, and only gotten one interview. One the guy emailed more detailed information than in his ad and it turned out I didn't actually qualify (he wanted me to be a notary). Another, a sales position, I got to the second round but never heard from them again. Another was too far a commute for only four hours a day, five days a week that after gas money it would have only been more of a burden. And the one I interviewed for was perfect and I totally thought I got it... only to be told someone else was hired. It happens.
A friend of mine gave me a lead and told me she's close friends with the regional manager of an employment company and she'd take care of me. I really thought I'd get a job. But it's been more than two weeks and she hasn't even tried to contact me back.
So now I'm contemplating relocation because my aunt has offered to let me stay with her. I'd have to sell pretty much everything I own to try to pay for the plane ticket, and I'm not sure even then I wouldn't have to borrow money from friends or family (my parents don't have it). But it might be my only option...
Anyway, I just thought I'd offer another perspective because it seems like 99% of cases mentioned were people who actually had unemployment benefits. But if you just graduated into this environment or if the job you lost was temporary or part time, you might be equally unemployed through no fault of your own, and not even get the cushion of such benefits. Thank God for my family, others are not so blessed.
But people aren't buying as MUCH at the store, or as many of the expensive items... those cut-backs do hurt overall profits, hence the reason I've personally seen grocery stores closing right & left. And it's not just the high-end food chains either, as Albertson's (like Safeway) here in California went completely under about a year ago.
Even I have changed my food shopping habits - I used to go to the grocery store weekly, now I go maybe 1-2 times a month & spend about half of what I used to. I'm just making do on less food, and making what I buy stretch for longer. It's actually been good for my diet, since I've lost 10lbs in the last two months! Not trying to scare or threaten you, just explaining that everyone is cutting back on everything... food, electronics, clothing, cars, etc. So nobody is safe from the economic downturn, sad to say.
I get paid every two weeks. $560 goes to rent and utilities, the rest goes to food.
gizmo, there is no finding peace in something like this. At best, people carry on. I've read enough on suicide survivors to know better. Still, I understand it. What I REALLY want is for Americans to get off their asses and HELP each other.
I want people to STOP being judgmental and just realize WTH has gone on here. Short of that, I have no comments. I just agonize over the Als of the world.
After reading the story about Al and the follow up posts, I can't help but wonder why destroyed ourselves yet. Unfortunately people just don't have compassion any more and our government does nothing to help those truly in need. Many people blame the victim and no one bothers looking in the mirror when they want to see the real cause of the problems we see around us.
You mentioned in an earlier post that in socialist countries, these kinds of problems aren't as severe, and you're right. There are laws in some countries that prevent homelessness and that the government steps in when the citizen can no longer help themselves, definitely something we can use here.
I think more or less most people agree that the unemployed are not all lazy. But a lot of them are. Equally, a lot of them are not. It's a simple classification really:
1. Worthless: Not looking for a job.
2. Very Lazy: Looking only for the 'perfect/ideal' job.
3. Patially Lazy: Willing to work only if they get hired, but not willing to create their own job/business.
4. Not Lazy at all: Looking for all kinds of fit work while also not afraid to venture out on their own if they can't find another job.
My guess is that most people fall into 3 and 4, but the ones who fall into 1 and 2 give the rest a bad rep.
I've been reading this post all the way through (I skimmed over some of the insult calling). It's interesting.
I'm unemployed. I graduated from college, moved back in with my parents, and it took me three months to find a job that paid $9/hr for 30 hours a week, but I was happy to have it. Unfortunately, then the economy got worse and as one of the newer hires I was laid off after four months of solid work. I hadn't worked long enough to even be considered for unemployment, plus I was working an office position with a research company so I was being 'rehired' for each new project they got and so even if I had worked there longer, I'd not have qualified as I was only ever a temporary worker.
I wasn't worried though, because I had some money saved for about two months cushion (which I think was pretty good for only having worked four months) and I thought I'd find a job. And I did... 11 months later.
Another temporary position, helping relaunch a website. Once it was launched, the job was over. I didn't have enough time to really get my feet back under me, bill wise, before it was over, but I got about one month's cushion.
That was five months ago.
My mom has fibromalygia and is unemployed. Hers isn't bad enough that she couldn't work at all, but she can only work part-time, no more than two days in a row, in a sit-down position. And in this economy, she can't afford to be picky and hasn't been able to find anything, though she did work for the Census briefly this year. But the Census, in our area, had a wonderful return rate-- great for them, but meant that she had two months less work than anticipated.
My father is a manager of a grocery store and works 50 hours weeks. And yes, people do have to eat and grocery stores are still in business-- but if you're on a decreased income the first place people cut their budget is food. So they aren't doing great these past few years and with inflation, we're majorly struggling.
Apply as I may, I've only heard back from four jobs at ALL, and only gotten one interview. One the guy emailed more detailed information than in his ad and it turned out I didn't actually qualify (he wanted me to be a notary). Another, a sales position, I got to the second round but never heard from them again. Another was too far a commute for only four hours a day, five days a week that after gas money it would have only been more of a burden. And the one I interviewed for was perfect and I totally thought I got it... only to be told someone else was hired. It happens.
A friend of mine gave me a lead and told me she's close friends with the regional manager of an employment company and she'd take care of me. I really thought I'd get a job. But it's been more than two weeks and she hasn't even tried to contact me back.
So now I'm contemplating relocation because my aunt has offered to let me stay with her. I'd have to sell pretty much everything I own to try to pay for the plane ticket, and I'm not sure even then I wouldn't have to borrow money from friends or family (my parents don't have it). But it might be my only option...
Anyway, I just thought I'd offer another perspective because it seems like 99% of cases mentioned were people who actually had unemployment benefits. But if you just graduated into this environment or if the job you lost was temporary or part time, you might be equally unemployed through no fault of your own, and not even get the cushion of such benefits. Thank God for my family, others are not so blessed.
You know whats good about the bad economy? I feel better about myself, I don't feel like such a loser for not getting a college degree.
I've been reading this post all the way through (I skimmed over some of the insult calling). It's interesting.
I'm unemployed. I graduated from college, moved back in with my parents, and it took me three months to find a job that paid $9/hr for 30 hours a week, but I was happy to have it. Unfortunately, then the economy got worse and as one of the newer hires I was laid off after four months of solid work. I hadn't worked long enough to even be considered for unemployment, plus I was working an office position with a research company so I was being 'rehired' for each new project they got and so even if I had worked there longer, I'd not have qualified as I was only ever a temporary worker.
I wasn't worried though, because I had some money saved for about two months cushion (which I think was pretty good for only having worked four months) and I thought I'd find a job. And I did... 11 months later.
Another temporary position, helping relaunch a website. Once it was launched, the job was over. I didn't have enough time to really get my feet back under me, bill wise, before it was over, but I got about one month's cushion.
That was five months ago.
My mom has fibromalygia and is unemployed. Hers isn't bad enough that she couldn't work at all, but she can only work part-time, no more than two days in a row, in a sit-down position. And in this economy, she can't afford to be picky and hasn't been able to find anything, though she did work for the Census briefly this year. But the Census, in our area, had a wonderful return rate-- great for them, but meant that she had two months less work than anticipated.
My father is a manager of a grocery store and works 50 hours weeks. And yes, people do have to eat and grocery stores are still in business-- but if you're on a decreased income the first place people cut their budget is food. So they aren't doing great these past few years and with inflation, we're majorly struggling.
Apply as I may, I've only heard back from four jobs at ALL, and only gotten one interview. One the guy emailed more detailed information than in his ad and it turned out I didn't actually qualify (he wanted me to be a notary). Another, a sales position, I got to the second round but never heard from them again. Another was too far a commute for only four hours a day, five days a week that after gas money it would have only been more of a burden. And the one I interviewed for was perfect and I totally thought I got it... only to be told someone else was hired. It happens.
A friend of mine gave me a lead and told me she's close friends with the regional manager of an employment company and she'd take care of me. I really thought I'd get a job. But it's been more than two weeks and she hasn't even tried to contact me back.
So now I'm contemplating relocation because my aunt has offered to let me stay with her. I'd have to sell pretty much everything I own to try to pay for the plane ticket, and I'm not sure even then I wouldn't have to borrow money from friends or family (my parents don't have it). But it might be my only option...
Anyway, I just thought I'd offer another perspective because it seems like 99% of cases mentioned were people who actually had unemployment benefits. But if you just graduated into this environment or if the job you lost was temporary or part time, you might be equally unemployed through no fault of your own, and not even get the cushion of such benefits. Thank God for my family, others are not so blessed.
I'm not looking to hire you for a job, but if you need one I can point you in the right direction. Your last job you only made 270 a week, you should be able to do that on a saturday, selling door to door. If you need info let me no..
Look people I am trying to help this guy, I'm only going to point him in the direction to start making money right now, I'm not going to hire this person.
You know whats good about the bad economy? I feel better about myself, I don't feel like such a loser for not getting a college degree.
Yeah, but who's going to be feeling good in 10-15 years? Hopefully you'll still be happy with yourself, and most college graduates will likely be doing just fine... economy sucks right now, but we all know degrees can earn you more in a lifetime.
I get paid every two weeks. $560 goes to rent and utilities, the rest goes to food.
Well, everyone spends their money differently... I put most of mine towards rent (which is a LOT more than $560), and the rest has to be distributed between my food, my pet's food (I'd starve myself before them), bills, car expenses, etc. Oh, and I do have a social life - not going out like I used to, but as often as I can still afford. Good budgeting is all relative, I suppose.
Yeah, but who's going to be feeling good in 10-15 years? Hopefully you'll still be happy with yourself, and most college graduates will likely be doing just fine... economy sucks right now, but we all know degrees can earn you more in a lifetime.
Before the economy went to the crapper, and even during the bad economy for a while I made a good bit more without a degree than most of my friends did with one. It all depends on the individual, and what they want to do with their life. Just because you couldn't afford to throw away $80,000 on a degree doesn't mean you should be doomed to poverty for the rest of your life.
Just because you couldn't afford to throw away $80,000 on a degree doesn't mean you should be doomed to poverty for the rest of your life.
I wish that applied, but it never does.
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Not trying to scare or threaten you, just explaining that everyone is cutting back on everything... food, electronics, clothing, cars, etc. So nobody is safe from the economic downturn, sad to say.
