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Old 07-07-2009, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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Her interviews yesterday proves she has some missing screws, God she's a moron!

 
Old 07-07-2009, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson View Post
Illogical. Your comments about ignorance may well be true, but that does not deny the fact that listening to Sarah Palin should leave an average person with the realization that Sarah lacks the background to be successful on a national scale. Indeed, it should leave most people wondering how we are so unfortunate to have elected her to be Governor.

Unfortunately the number of conservatives in this state is what causes scenarios like a Frank Murkowski being followed by a Sarah Palin.
Illogical to you, logical to me. Listening to Sarah Palin by you may "feel" in a certain way (whichever it may be), but it doesn't mean that she is perceived the same way by another person who listen to her at the same time.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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Illogical to you, logical to me.
Logic is not something that changes from one person to another. It's a matter of whether one person or another perceives it or not.

My point was that your comment was illogical. That has nothing to do with what one gets from listening to Palin. Hence, once again, you respond illogically.

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Listening to Sarah Palin by you may "feel" in a certain way (whichever it may be), but it doesn't mean that she is perceived the same way by another person who listen to her at the same time.
Exactly true. Some people are emotional, some are logical, some are analytical and others are not...

Some people pick up on the sound bites, the window dressing, and all the wonderfully meaningless hubris that politicians and preachers love to generate.

And in the process you miss the signficance of electing an air head.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Logic is not something that changes from one person to another. It's a matter of whether one person or another perceives it or not.

My point was that your comment was illogical. That has nothing to do with what one gets from listening to Palin. Hence, once again, you respond illogically.

Exactly true. Some people are emotional, some are logical, some are analytical and others are not...

Some people pick up on the sound bites, the window dressing, and all the wonderfully meaningless hubris that politicians and preachers love to generate.

And in the process you miss the signficance of electing an air head.
Every person listens his or her own way, and most often include their own biases in the listening process. Every listener uses his or her emotions. It's much like an abstract painting being looked at by two or more people, in that every one sees something different of the same painting. If forums like this one, soon after a thread one can clearly see a sort of mob or gang mindset. One makes some emotionally charged comment, and soon after there are several. It feels good to slam another person, and then to be joined by a chorus. Right?

Take Obama, for example, who was elected by a majority of Americans. Does it mean that those who didn't vote for Obama are illogical? I don't think so. The same for those who didn't vote, or don't like Palin. When one does not like somebody else, one usually finds all kinds of faults on that person. You can see several examples of such right here in this thread, where people are expressing their emotions (how they feel about Palin). Nothing more, nothing less.

When it comes to politicians, the listeners aren't using logic, but emotions. But if a cashier is trying to figure how much change you are getting back, more than likely you are being very logical. Well, unless she is real good-looking and you care more about "looking" than the change.

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Old 07-07-2009, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ
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Every person listens his or her own way, and most often include their own biases in the listening process. Every listener uses his or her emotions. It's much like an abstract painting being looked at by two or more people, in that every one sees something different of the same painting. If forums like this one, soon after a thread one can clearly see a sort of mob or gang mindset. One makes some emotionally charged comment, and soon after there are several. It feels good to slam another person, and then to be joined by a chorus. Right?

Take Obama, for example, who was elected by a majority of Americans. Does it mean that those who didn't vote for Obama are illogical? I don't think so. The same for those who didn't vote, or don't like Palin. When one does not like somebody else, one usually finds all kinds of faults on that person. You can see several examples of such right here in this thread, where people are expressing their emotions (how they feel about Palin). Nothing more, nothing less.

When it comes to politicians, the listeners aren't using logic, but emotions. But if a cashier is trying to figure how much change you are getting back, more than likely you are being very logical. Well, unless she is real good-looking and you care more about "looking" than the change.
What you say may be true to some extent, but more people have looked at in this case "Palin" versus any one abstract painting in any museum, and the consensus is not just from Alaska, but from across the nation. Not all are eyeballing the 'package', but what is coming out of the packages mouth, we are not all swayed by the wrapping...and yes there is reality and emotion, and many people either from Alaska or outside, with the repeated camera-seeking, or cameras seeking her whatever the case may be, are tired of hearing the same old whatever that comes out of her, at that particular moment so she is appealing to that particular group... Her story consistently changes and she can't keep track anymore. She was done, but when fishing arranged how many interviews, compared politics or her job, soon-to-be former job to fishing...somebody give me a break...fishing is big in Alaska, but in the real world and outside of Alaska where she has been focusing her attention, she cannot predict the run and refuses to see the light.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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How many of you here have actually met and talked with Todd and Sarah.....
 
Old 07-07-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Her interviews yesterday proves she has some missing screws, God she's a moron!
Welcome aboard, Warpt. We have been waiting for you for a long time. Note, however, that while she IS a moron, she is also a few other things: liar, slimy, delusional.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Welcome aboard, Warpt. We have been waiting for you for a long time. Note, however, that while she IS a moron, she is also a few other things: liar, slimy, delusional.
Is there a moderator around? I thought personal attacks were a violation of forum rules.....


Hello......
 
Old 07-07-2009, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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What you say may be true to some extent, but more people have looked at in this case "Palin" versus any one abstract painting in any museum, and the consensus is not just from Alaska, but from across the nation. Not all are eyeballing the 'package', but what is coming out of the packages mouth, we are not all swayed by the wrapping...and yes there is reality and emotion, and many people either from Alaska or outside, with the repeated camera-seeking, or cameras seeking her whatever the case may be, are tired of hearing the same old whatever that comes out of her, at that particular moment so she is appealing to that particular group... Her story consistently changes and she can't keep track anymore. She was done, but when fishing arranged how many interviews, compared politics or her job, soon-to-be former job to fishing...somebody give me a break...fishing is big in Alaska, but in the real world and outside of Alaska where she has been focusing her attention, she cannot predict the run and refuses to see the light.
Not necessarily true. In the lower-48, Palin brings-in huge crows wherever she speaks, including recently at a town in Northern NY. Now, I can clearly see that you don't like Palin, and while there isn't anything wrong with that, you have expressed nothing but emotions, which is exactly what I have repeatedly tried to explain in my posts. But you have to take into consideration is that those who, for whatever reason (s) don't like Palin, will first see all her faults, and these will overpower any positive perceptions of her. Not so for those who like Palin. These will see the opposite of yours.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, California
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Is there a moderator around? I thought personal attacks were a violation of forum rules.....


Hello......
Who exactly was subjected to "personal attacks" here?
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