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Old 01-02-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Hu Shih (胡適)

Because he had never lived one day under PRC rule, so I adopted the Wade Giles pronunciation which has been used in ROC.

Hu was the idol of Mao. What Mao did the first thing after he got a job as librarian in Peking University was to attend Hu's class even though he was not a student.
Actually, Hu Shih looks more like a GR (Gwoyeu Romatzyh) spelling. GR was the system conceived by famed linguist Yuen Ren Chao sometime in the 1920's and adopted by the ROC government as the official romanization scheme during the Nanjing Decade. That is why you still occasionally see it in Taiwan or in ROC publications though it has never been popularly accepted in non-official use. GR does not use tonal marks as Hanyu Pinyin and Wade-Giles do, it uses different spellings instead.
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Actually the airport code for Beijing is PEK instead of BEI or BEJ.
Yes. I'm curious what airport code the new airport, Daxing, being built to the south of the city, will take on, as they're going to keep the current one operating.
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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on Beijing University's website, his name is correctly spelled as Hu Shi

the same if you check Baidu.

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Hu Shih (胡適)

Because he had never lived one day under PRC rule, so I adopted the Wade Giles pronunciation which has been used in ROC.

Hu was the idol of Mao. What Mao did the first thing after he got a job as librarian in Peking University was to attend Hu's class even though he was not a student.
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Old 01-03-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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When Hu Shih passed away in 1962 in Taiwan, pinyin was not even widely used in China. Mao Zedong was still translated as Mao Tse Tung and Beijing was still known as Peking.

When Hu Shih graduated from Cornell in 1914, his first name was already Shih as recorded in school.

Anyway, I don't see Hu Shih has anything to do with PRC. So why should his name be modified under pinyin?
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Old 01-03-2019, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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Pinyin is not universal.

Taipei is not Taibei. Hong Kong is not Xianggang.
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:47 AM
 
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Pinyin is not universal.

Taipei is not Taibei. Hong Kong is not Xianggang.
In China, Lhasa, Hohhot, Urumqi are not pinyin either. Even Harbin is not strictly pinyin.
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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In China, Lhasa, Hohhot, Urumqi are not pinyin either. Even Harbin is not strictly pinyin.
Those are Tibetan, Mongol, Uyghur and Russian names.
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Old 01-04-2019, 12:21 PM
 
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Those are Tibetan, Mongol, Uyghur and Russian names.
Harbin is not Russian, but Manchu. There are different stories about the origin, but none of them has anything to do with Russian.

Urumqi could be considered Uyghur, but the origin is Mongolian.
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Old 01-04-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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Two times in my life I was "corrected" for starting the conversation about the subject "you speak Chinese", with a people from China, one snapped at me saying the correct term is "Mandarin" the other person said the correct term is "Cantonese". These were one from China, one from Hong Kong.
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Old 01-04-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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but now things have changed. it is like ancient english is no longer in use. so all these pre-pingyin spelling should be corrected. For example, Peking is no longer used. An average chinese will have problem identifying who is Hu Shih



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When Hu Shih passed away in 1962 in Taiwan, pinyin was not even widely used in China. Mao Zedong was still translated as Mao Tse Tung and Beijing was still known as Peking.

When Hu Shih graduated from Cornell in 1914, his first name was already Shih as recorded in school.

Anyway, I don't see Hu Shih has anything to do with PRC. So why should his name be modified under pinyin?
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